jafferpants wrote:
I used a pedometer last year on one day and from the time i signed on to the point where i went home i clocked up just over 11 miles., but here's the sad bit. i then worked out in the time i'd been in the job that the total distance iv'e walked would have taken me around the world twice. i know, iknow, i need to get out more.
How long have you worked at RM for?
It pains me to say it but 40 years.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
jafferpants wrote:
I used a pedometer last year on one day and from the time i signed on to the point where i went home i clocked up just over 11 miles., but here's the sad bit. i then worked out in the time i'd been in the job that the total distance iv'e walked would have taken me around the world twice. i know, iknow, i need to get out more.
How long have you worked at RM for?
Probably nearly 19 years assuming 240 working days a year and circumference of earth 24901 miles.
I thought for a minuet you were measuring my wifes arse!!!!! She asked me the other day if her new dress made her arse look big i replied"no i think it's that 3 stone of extra fat your carrying "
ten_mile wrote:Apparently they don't have any money for a pouch boxes either.
My walk is 12 miles long with 3 pouch boxes up hill and down dale.
My last bag weighs 20kg+ every day.
My Doctor has signed me off sick in the past with torticollis of the back/neck caused by work.
My DOM just had his office decorated.
Welcome to Royal Mail....
Why on earth are you carrying 20Kg+ everyday? Are you aware of the pouch weight matrix?
Indeed I am, my last bag shouldn't weigh anymore than 8kilos. Just recently, I weighed this pouch in front of my Line Manager and showed him the result, to which he replied "Is that just one pouch?", I replied "yes it is!" to which he shook his head, shrugged his shoulders and pissed off...
They have told me in the past to split this bag in half, deliver half and then return to the pouch box, collect and deliver the other half. The problem is, the length that my walk is , I have to walk nearly a mile back to the pouch box then another mile back out to start delivery again. This "dead walking" alone takes nearly 20-30 mins which puts me well over my finish time and they don't want to pay me overtime for this. This is also not really an option as I need to finish on time as I have other commitments outside of work, besides that I shouldn't have to work over my time if i don't want to!
The worst thing is, when my office changed over from 2 deliveries to 1 some years ago, I applied for 3 new boxes for this walk, and all 3 applications were approved but only 2 boxes ever materialised. I have re-applied for the box 2 times since then and both times the line manager involved has agreed that it was needed and forwarded the application. The box has never arrived, it was just recently when I quizzed them about it (again) that they told me that they had run out of money?! I have even agreed since with another postie to have a box moved from his walk onto mine because he doesn't use it but now they are dragging their heels and saying they haven't got the money even to move a box!!
Maybe I should write a letter to the Area Manager as nobody seems intersted in my office (including the union rep)?
Also are there any regulations on how long in distance a walk can be? Walking 10 miles+ a day on delivery is sureley wrong. If I'd wanted to march this distance every day i would've joined the army!
If I were in your shoes, I would tell the gaffer with a witness present that, I would be working to my time and bringing any undelivered mail back. The trouble with most managers is that they are unwilling to deal with a problem whilst a postie continues to work through it. The logistics of the walk is not your problem to deal with, they get paid to deal with problems, work to your time and cut off if necessary and let them earn the money their paid to resolve issues.
BTW. An infantry soldier speed marches 8 miles in 1hr 50 mins carrying 35lbs of kit + a rifle (9lb) as part of his annual infantry combat fitness test. I wonder how far a postie walks in 3 1/2 hours carrying on average 35.2lbs (16Kg) -17.6lb (8Kg)?
Is that 8 miles in 110 minutes carrying 44lb 'on the level' or over hilly or mountainous terrain, and what else is expected of him for a days pay ?
ten_mile wrote:Apparently they don't have any money for a pouch boxes either.
My walk is 12 miles long with 3 pouch boxes up hill and down dale.
My last bag weighs 20kg+ every day.
My Doctor has signed me off sick in the past with torticollis of the back/neck caused by work.
My DOM just had his office decorated.
Welcome to Royal Mail....
Why on earth are you carrying 20Kg+ everyday? Are you aware of the pouch weight matrix?
Indeed I am, my last bag shouldn't weigh anymore than 8kilos. Just recently, I weighed this pouch in front of my Line Manager and showed him the result, to which he replied "Is that just one pouch?", I replied "yes it is!" to which he shook his head, shrugged his shoulders and pissed off...
They have told me in the past to split this bag in half, deliver half and then return to the pouch box, collect and deliver the other half. The problem is, the length that my walk is , I have to walk nearly a mile back to the pouch box then another mile back out to start delivery again. This "dead walking" alone takes nearly 20-30 mins which puts me well over my finish time and they don't want to pay me overtime for this. This is also not really an option as I need to finish on time as I have other commitments outside of work, besides that I shouldn't have to work over my time if i don't want to!
The worst thing is, when my office changed over from 2 deliveries to 1 some years ago, I applied for 3 new boxes for this walk, and all 3 applications were approved but only 2 boxes ever materialised. I have re-applied for the box 2 times since then and both times the line manager involved has agreed that it was needed and forwarded the application. The box has never arrived, it was just recently when I quizzed them about it (again) that they told me that they had run out of money?! I have even agreed since with another postie to have a box moved from his walk onto mine because he doesn't use it but now they are dragging their heels and saying they haven't got the money even to move a box!!
Maybe I should write a letter to the Area Manager as nobody seems intersted in my office (including the union rep)?
Also are there any regulations on how long in distance a walk can be? Walking 10 miles+ a day on delivery is sureley wrong. If I'd wanted to march this distance every day i would've joined the army!
If I were in your shoes, I would tell the gaffer with a witness present that, I would be working to my time and bringing any undelivered mail back. The trouble with most managers is that they are unwilling to deal with a problem whilst a postie continues to work through it. The logistics of the walk is not your problem to deal with, they get paid to deal with problems, work to your time and cut off if necessary and let them earn the money their paid to resolve issues.
BTW. An infantry soldier speed marches 8 miles in 1hr 50 mins carrying 35lbs of kit + a rifle (9lb) as part of his annual infantry combat fitness test. I wonder how far a postie walks in 3 1/2 hours carrying on average 35.2lbs (16Kg) -17.6lb (8Kg)?
Well in my day it was followed by an Assault course and 110 rounds on the range, and the course had to be over varied terrain, tarmac, fields, hills streams etc. However the point is that a soldier only has to do it once or twice a year and can therefore prepare themselves, we have to do a fairly similar weight (albeit it does get lighter till the next bag) and for nearly twice as long and we don't have the luxury of a first aid wagon just behind us if we get injured, and water on tap as well.
Is that 8 miles in 150 minutes carrying 44lb 'on the level' or over hilly or mountainous terrain, and what else is expected of him for a days pay ?
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I have even agreed since with another postie to have a box moved from his walk onto mine because he doesn't use it but now they are dragging their heels and saying they haven't got the money even to move a box!!
