Furloughed workers : The 80% thing

5plusbonusball · Post by **5plusbonusball** » 28 Mar 2020, 17:59

Rico should be sacked now , step down(off the moving plane) now shares have dropped 30p down to £1.33. And I don't mean give him a big pay off. We should all sue him for our plantar

then sue him again for our corona!

The Demented Bread Boffer · Post by **The Demented Bread Boffer** » 30 Mar 2020, 17:11

When the Government stated that Asthmatics should self isolate for 12 weeks, I expected some sort of guidance from above. On the Friday morning I informed my manager I'd be doing so. I was asked to see him before I left. He informed me I'd be on unpaid leave, but I could apply for SSP (this is false as it's the payrolls job to do this. I can't, as an employee, do this). I was then given a couple of options.. Night shift (I can't as my asthma can't adapt to the hours) or just to go to offices, no contact with the public. Judging by the amount of ill people who come to work on a daily basis fearful of losing their job, I counted this out. Furloughing was announced that day.
Today I contacted HR to ask if I was on a furlough list. Waste of time. They're reading from a script. It's basically accept our help and get a Doctors line and take up to 6 months full pay or suffer on unpaid leave. They haven't even considered furlough. We'd get 80% of salary, which would help a great deal, and Royal Mail would treat us as unpaid leave.

I can't see the downside.

bergos · Post by **bergos** » 30 Mar 2020, 17:25

The Demented Bread Boffer wrote:When the Government stated that Asthmatics should self isolate for 12 weeks, I expected some sort of guidance from above. On the Friday morning I informed my manager I'd be doing so. I was asked to see him before I left. He informed me I'd be on unpaid leave, but I could apply for SSP (this is false as it's the payrolls job to do this. I can't, as an employee, do this). I was then given a couple of options.. Night shift (I can't as my asthma can't adapt to the hours) or just to go to offices, no contact with the public. Judging by the amount of ill people who come to work on a daily basis fearful of losing their job, I counted this out. Furloughing was announced that day.
Today I contacted HR to ask if I was on a furlough list. Waste of time. They're reading from a script. It's basically accept our help and get a Doctors line and take up to 6 months full pay or suffer on unpaid leave. They haven't even considered furlough. We'd get 80% of salary, which would help a great deal, and Royal Mail would treat us as unpaid leave.

I can't see the downside.

So far, from what I can gather, the furlough is only for people who would otherwise be laid off due to being unable to do business, due to the virus, Royal Mail is still running and will be for the foreseeable future, so no furlough, seems unfair but at the same time we are not in a position where are jobs are currently at risk, so there is that.

I too have been forced to take 12 weeks off and I am also on SSP right now, even though we are not sick which just seems incorrect to me anyway, we are off to protect ourselves from sickness, not because we are sick.

Royal Mail should be paying us and hopefully eventually will back down on this but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Ren Hoëk · Post by **Ren Hoëk** » 30 Mar 2020, 17:36

Im off work to protect my wife as she is in the vulnerable bracket as well as being pregnant. She's currently laid up in hospital as she quickly become unwell with one of those conditions yesterday. The government have completely neglected the group of people I fall into and so have RM. I have been forced to take leave and when that runs dry it will be unpaid special leave. Cheers RM, Cheers Boris. I will remember this.

The Demented Bread Boffer · Post by **The Demented Bread Boffer** » 30 Mar 2020, 17:57

bergos wrote:
The Demented Bread Boffer wrote:When the Government stated that Asthmatics should self isolate for 12 weeks, I expected some sort of guidance from above. On the Friday morning I informed my manager I'd be doing so. I was asked to see him before I left. He informed me I'd be on unpaid leave, but I could apply for SSP (this is false as it's the payrolls job to do this. I can't, as an employee, do this). I was then given a couple of options.. Night shift (I can't as my asthma can't adapt to the hours) or just to go to offices, no contact with the public. Judging by the amount of ill people who come to work on a daily basis fearful of losing their job, I counted this out. Furloughing was announced that day.
Today I contacted HR to ask if I was on a furlough list. Waste of time. They're reading from a script. It's basically accept our help and get a Doctors line and take up to 6 months full pay or suffer on unpaid leave. They haven't even considered furlough. We'd get 80% of salary, which would help a great deal, and Royal Mail would treat us as unpaid leave.

I can't see the downside.
So far, from what I can gather, the furlough is only for people who would otherwise be laid off due to being unable to do business, due to the virus, Royal Mail is still running and will be for the foreseeable future, so no furlough, seems unfair but at the same time we are not in a position where are jobs are currently at risk, so there is that.

I too have been forced to take 12 weeks off and I am also on SSP right now, even though we are not sick which just seems incorrect to me anyway, we are off to protect ourselves from sickness, not because we are sick.

Royal Mail should be paying us and hopefully eventually will back down on this but I wouldn't hold your breath.

The furlough option also applies to those who can't work due to the prevailing conditions and, no, I won't be holding my breath (chance would be a fine thing).I fully expect nothing.

40 years service for this?

Postmanpat6312 · Post by **Postmanpat6312** » 31 Mar 2020, 18:27

Who can claim
Any UK organisation with employees can apply, including:

businesses
charities
recruitment agencies (agency workers paid through PAYE)
public authorities

Why doesn’t Royal Mail make a claim?

Post by **POSTMAN** » 31 Mar 2020, 18:39

Postmanpat6312 wrote:
Who can claim
Any UK organisation with employees can apply, including:

businesses
charities
recruitment agencies (agency workers paid through PAYE)
public authorities
Why doesn’t Royal Mail make a claim?

Read the whole thread, the answers are there.

Postmanpat6312 · Post by **Postmanpat6312** » 01 Apr 2020, 17:53

Martin Lewis site says those at home looking after kids can be put on furlough, so the thread does not answer this.

Post by **GoingPostal86** » 03 Apr 2020, 19:07

And I would imagine part timers are stuffed.

I usually do 40-46 hours a week but I'm down to my basic 20 to watch the kids during the morning.

Def noticeable in the pay packet. I try to remind myself at least I still have a job but a part of me is a bit annoyed at being out at work while others stay home and claim probably more than my basic.

Chelseablue · Post by **Chelseablue** » 03 Apr 2020, 21:10

Stay at home? Your annoyed at ppl self isolating and maybe spreading this virus to others at work? Just because you cant get your 46 hours a week? Great stuff

Post by **GoingPostal86** » 03 Apr 2020, 21:40

Chelseablue wrote:Stay at home? Your annoyed at ppl self isolating and maybe spreading this virus to others at work? Just because you cant get your 46 hours a week? Great stuff

Obviously not, it was just an observation on myself and other part timers who are still at work while other claim for more than we are getting paid for being out in danger or have lost the OT that normally gave us a full weekly wage.

However many of my friends and family have either lost their jobs completely, stopped working temporarily and it is not lost on me how lucky I am to have a job at all.

Please don't turn it into a "being greedy" thing because it's absolutely not and I apologize if it came off that way.

Over 20 colleagues at my work have left on sick, stress or self isolating.

We still have no ppe like many others, it's obviously frustrating for everyone.

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 03 Apr 2020, 21:47

GoingPostal86 wrote:
Chelseablue wrote:Stay at home? Your annoyed at ppl self isolating and maybe spreading this virus to others at work? Just because you cant get your 46 hours a week? Great stuff
Obviously not, it was just an observation on myself and other part timers who are still at work while other claim for more than we are getting paid for being out in danger or have lost the OT that normally gave us a full weekly wage.

However many of my friends and family have either lost their jobs completely, stopped working temporarily and it is not lost on me how lucky I am to have a job at all.

Please don't turn it into a "being greedy" thing because it's absolutely not and I apologize if it came off that way.

Over 20 colleagues at my work have left on sick, stress or self isolating.

We still have no ppe like many others, it's obviously frustrating for everyone.

Well I'll just jump in and back you up GP86. I certainly didn't read your post that way.
I don't think it's all roses and sunshine for the folks who are stuck at home, paid or otherwise...

Post by **GoingPostal86** » 03 Apr 2020, 21:54

ssdd wrote:
GoingPostal86 wrote:
Chelseablue wrote:Stay at home? Your annoyed at ppl self isolating and maybe spreading this virus to others at work? Just because you cant get your 46 hours a week? Great stuff
Obviously not, it was just an observation on myself and other part timers who are still at work while other claim for more than we are getting paid for being out in danger or have lost the OT that normally gave us a full weekly wage.

However many of my friends and family have either lost their jobs completely, stopped working temporarily and it is not lost on me how lucky I am to have a job at all.

Please don't turn it into a "being greedy" thing because it's absolutely not and I apologize if it came off that way.

Over 20 colleagues at my work have left on sick, stress or self isolating.

We still have no ppe like many others, it's obviously frustrating for everyone.
Well I'll just jump in and back you up GP86. I certainly didn't read your post that way.
I don't think it's all roses and sunshine for the folks who are stuck at home, paid or otherwise...

Thank you..like I mentioned many of my friends and family have lost jobs almost immediately... It's been awful to see and not lost on me.

Myself and my wife are both key workers and qualified for childcare but we gave up our place so others, with more immediately important jobs could get the places for their children, such as NHS workers etc, regardless of losing overtime that gives me a bigger pay packet on top of basic 20hrs.

Good luck to everyone struggling and otherwise.

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 03 Apr 2020, 21:59

GoingPostal86 wrote: Like I said many of my friends and family have lost jobs almost immediately... It's been awful to see.

Yeah, my wife too. But we'll get by. Remember there's the Rowland Hill fund if you're experiencing any financial difficulties...

microprocessor · Post by **microprocessor** » 03 Apr 2020, 22:03

I'm in processing at an MC in the south.

I'm in the awkward situation of having become, in the last six weeks, the main carer for an elderly relative who is very vulnerable. I currently reside with her. I have avoided going into my MC for the last couple of weeks because my chances of getting infected are so much greater if I do and if I contract the bug it is inconceivable that I could stay with her: she is dementing and would not be able to mutually self-isolate with me at home. I would have to move out. Unfortunately, the social services care package she has in place would be utterly inadequate to meet her needs and she could not cope living alone without me. In the current climate there is no option of residential care or even a hospital stay.

I have financial responsibilities of my own (e.g. a flat gathering dust, a car) and cannot afford to keep taking unpaid leave. So I am due to go back into work next week. I will be playing russian roulette with my mother's life. I have been hoping that some provision would be made for people in my position, such as being furloughed until Covid-19 is out of the picture. Are my responsibilities as a carer more important than those as a key worker? If I can stay put we have a chance of muddling through.

I feel awful looking for a way to get out of going to work when my mates are going in putting their health, and that of their loved ones, on the line. Blood is thicker than water? Ah, what a shitty situation.

Keep safe guys