norris9 wrote:postietom wrote:Said this before, the worst part of this job is the leave. Literally a year in advance in our office. Getting odd days is a nightmare too. A guy booked Florida and needed an extra day, Monday I think it was and he was told no and to cancel the holiday

He had to sort it himself and swap his day off with somebody.
I am new...
Should I be booking days off well in advance then? I mean - I don't have any days I need to be off, no holidays to Magaluf booked, no weddings booked, so I don't need any specific days off....but... do I need to be booking some random days off now, early, well in advance?
Is it not the case that I can just say to them a week or 2 in advance that I need a Wednesday off? do they expect like 5 months notice of something?
AL is booked each year in or shortly after October so for example AL booked in October 2018 is for the year running from April 2019 to March 2020 inclusive. I realise it sounds barmy but RM has a lot of staff or whatever so this is how it is done. In addition DO have differing ways and methods as to how AL is allocated and booked. Some DOs still use the seniority system, as in how many years service you have with RM, as basis for the order of booking AL even though strictly speaking this is illegal. In our DO we alternate it year on year so one year it gets booked in order of least service then the next year the most service. Then we take turns to book two weeks each up to the six weeks maximum as we go up & down the list. Then we add a further complication in that we book summer and winter weeks. For RMs purposes from April to end of September is classed as summer and October to end of March is classed as winter. Complicated isn't it?
You should be able to ask your DOM and/or union rep about this stuff or any other question you have. Ask about the 'POAL' scheme if you want to top your annual leave quota to the maximum amount allowed. A small amount of money is deducted from your wages each week if you want to do that. I say six weeks annual leave but its actually thirty days because you deduct the Sunday and your weekly day off work from the equation. If your office has changed over to the new system - not all have yet - then your AL allocation will be in a total amount of hours. If not then it will show up as twenty days initially. Thirty days is the maximum you can get as I mentioned before.
You can ask for a certain day off a week or two in advance and they should do their best to help out. This would usually be fixed by swapping your day off with another member of staff. If you have spare AL this may be able to be used for the purpose. In my personal experience & given that offices are usually short staffed the more likely outcome is the DOM will attempt to swap your day off.
Regarding holidays at Xmas it is possible to book the week between Xmas and New Year at RM. Posties who like to have that week off, and it is usually the same posties, will often book that week first if it is available. Another thing to remember is you get a 'day in lieu' to book at a later date if you book a week of AL that has a bank holiday eg Good Friday, Xmas Day etc in it.
Up to five days of AL, or the equivalent in hours, can be carried over to the following year of annual leave if you can't or choose not to take it.
There is a separate section on this forum for questions from new posties if you wish to read stuff there or ask more questions. We are mostly a friendly bunch of posties but occasionally we get angry and go off on one.

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