VITAL UPDATE FROM DGSP TERRY PULLINGER ON ROYAL MAIL TALKS

A2B · Post by **A2B** » 12 Jan 2018, 19:50

kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.

I'd rather have a little extra in my wages than a few minutes off a day

bowie · Post by **bowie** » 12 Jan 2018, 19:51

Less time indoor,bigger walks as long as I don't lose money I'm happy,get the deal done terry

Post by **Lincox** » 12 Jan 2018, 19:52

kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.

You obviously do not understand how knocking 1 hour off of a full timers hours benefits you by increasing your hourly rate of pay. So here is the answer.

Full timer currently working 39 hours at say £10 per hour would get £390 per week
If he then drops down to 38 hours for the same pay of £390 his hourly rate increases to £10.26p per hour.

So as a part timer if you are on 25 hour contract currently at £10 per hour you get £250
Your rate of pay will increase to £10.26p per hour so your weekly pay will increase to £256.50p per week and any overtime you do up to 38 hours will also be paid at £10.26p per hour.

So how is that only benefiting full timers and screwing part timers? Please comment.

kev321 · Post by **kev321** » 12 Jan 2018, 19:57

A2B wrote:
kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.
I'd rather have a little extra in my wages than a few minutes off a day

And I'd like to be full time rather than being part time doing a job which (according to the latest revision) is 15-20 minutes over alloted delivery time. I note that they are very quick to make adjustments in their favour whilst ignoring my issue for nearly two years.

nudenut · Post by **nudenut** » 12 Jan 2018, 20:02

kev321 wrote:
A2B wrote:
kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.
I'd rather have a little extra in my wages than a few minutes off a day

And I'd like to be full time rather than being part time doing a job which (according to the latest revision) is 15-20 minutes over alloted delivery time. I note that they are very quick to make adjustments in their favour whilst ignoring my issue for nearly two years.

What exactly is your issue? You don't want to go over your delivery span ?

kev321 · Post by **kev321** » 12 Jan 2018, 20:04

Lincox wrote:
kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.
You obviously do not understand how knocking 1 hour off of a full timers hours benefits you by increasing your hourly rate of pay. So here is the answer.

Full timer currently working 39 hours at say £10 per hour would get £390 per week
If he then drops down to 38 hours for the same pay of £390 his hourly rate increases to £10.26p per hour.

So as a part timer if you are on 25 hour contract currently at £10 per hour you get £250
Your rate of pay will increase to £10.26p per hour so your weekly pay will increase to £256.50p per week and any overtime you do up to 38 hours will also be paid at £10.26p per hour.

So how is that only benefiting full timers and screwing part timers? Please comment.

I actually do understand so please don't try to condescend me.
My point is that full timers work an hour less (again) and also get the pay rise whilst part timers only get the pay rise.

nudenut · Post by **nudenut** » 12 Jan 2018, 20:06

kev321 wrote:
Lincox wrote:
kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.
You obviously do not understand how knocking 1 hour off of a full timers hours benefits you by increasing your hourly rate of pay. So here is the answer.

Full timer currently working 39 hours at say £10 per hour would get £390 per week
If he then drops down to 38 hours for the same pay of £390 his hourly rate increases to £10.26p per hour.

So as a part timer if you are on 25 hour contract currently at £10 per hour you get £250
Your rate of pay will increase to £10.26p per hour so your weekly pay will increase to £256.50p per week and any overtime you do up to 38 hours will also be paid at £10.26p per hour.

So how is that only benefiting full timers and screwing part timers? Please comment.
I actually do understand so please don't try to condescend me.
My point is that full timers work an hour less (again) and also get the pay rise whilst part timers only get the pay rise.

But we are only getting the same rate

kev321 · Post by **kev321** » 12 Jan 2018, 20:09

nudenut wrote:
kev321 wrote:
A2B wrote:
kev321 wrote:So full timers once again get reduced working hours and all of the benefits whilst part timers get screwed again. Thanks but no thanks.
I'd rather have a little extra in my wages than a few minutes off a day

And I'd like to be full time rather than being part time doing a job which (according to the latest revision) is 15-20 minutes over alloted delivery time. I note that they are very quick to make adjustments in their favour whilst ignoring my issue for nearly two years.
What exactly is your issue? You don't want to go over your delivery span ?

Oh I don't go over, in fact I'm rather infamous for making a point of not going over. Every day is a constant battle over my delivery, I've alienated most managers with my stance and the union is quite frankly useless. I'm not some newbie either, I've been at RM for over 12 years.

Post by **Lincox** » 12 Jan 2018, 20:22

That is the daftest reply I have ever seen. If you were given an hour less work you would still be earning £10.26p per hour, the same rate as a full timer.
The main argument for part timers is that if they regularly do overtime they do not get this when they are off sick or on holiday. I can fully support their frustrations at this, but if you were to work 38 hours a week you would be paid exactly the same as a full timer.

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 12 Jan 2018, 21:07

My point is that full timers work an hour less (again) and also get the pay rise whilst part timers only get the pay rise.

The rise in part-time pay due to the shorter working week is entirely separate to any negotiated pay rise, Parr-time staff in effect get two pay rises where full-time staff only get one.

maisymoo04 · Post by **maisymoo04** » 12 Jan 2018, 21:22

was like I was on a plane falling from the sky BRACE YOURSELF BRACE YOURSELF

hans solo · Post by **hans solo** » 12 Jan 2018, 21:26

meet the new boss
same as the old boss
we dont get fooled again
townsend /daltrey
oh yes we will
f**k them still voting against gvmt will screw pension proposal

borgpicard · Post by **borgpicard** » 12 Jan 2018, 22:41

Again lots of talk yet nothing being said

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 12 Jan 2018, 22:41

I'm the same as most about this and dims at ground level abiding to these agreements from above, but lets give the cwu a chance and see whats whats on paper before we start slating them , as at the end of the day we will have the last say with a ballot , YES or NO.

Post by **aiden01** » 12 Jan 2018, 22:46

worktotime wrote:I'm the same as most about this and dims at ground level abiding to these agreements from above, but lets give the cwu a chance and see whats whats on paper before we start slating them , as at the end of the day we will have the last say with a ballot , YES or NO.

Your giving cwu a chance

u do nothing but hammer them on here