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BELIAL
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Post by BELIAL »

subareadeliverye5 wrote:if you read my post lads i have never said its a good deal but the opposite in fact. royal mail wanted a pay freeze in their first offer with just a £250 lump sum, door to door as duty, changing your start times by 2hrs a day,annualised hours,5 walks into 4,end of MTSF, new IR framework and more.i agree the union have been weak by passing everthing back down to local level, but people seem to be hung up on this flexibllity still. dont de scared just do the job properly and work to your time every day. the national agreement is still 3.5hr delivery span and no manager can make you work over this. tell me what else apart from a bit of flexibility have royal mail got in from their original list?
So I've still gained nothing.
But I havent lost as much as RM wanted me to; until April 08 ,that makes me feel so relieved, worth all those hours on the line
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Post by DGP1 »

BELIAL wrote:
subareadeliverye5 wrote:if you read my post lads i have never said its a good deal but the opposite in fact. royal mail wanted a pay freeze in their first offer with just a £250 lump sum, door to door as duty, changing your start times by 2hrs a day,annualised hours,5 walks into 4,end of MTSF, new IR framework and more.i agree the union have been weak by passing everthing back down to local level, but people seem to be hung up on this flexibllity still. dont de scared just do the job properly and work to your time every day. the national agreement is still 3.5hr delivery span and no manager can make you work over this. tell me what else apart from a bit of flexibility have royal mail got in from their original list?
So I've still gained nothing.
But I havent lost as much as RM wanted me to; until April 08 ,that makes me feel so relieved, worth all those hours on the line
The 3 1/2hr delivery is going, you'll be asked to complete you duty (up to 30mins at the minute but expect 2hrs in the future) and if you refuse then it'll become a conduct issue (so says NI AGM at last weeks union meeting)
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subareadeliverye5
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Post by subareadeliverye5 »

stop looking at an empty glass lads! nothing will change in the next 12 months believe me. the union are in charge and thats the way its gona stay!! 97% support for strikes do you think leighton took any notice? OF COURSE HE DID! we are many they are few!!
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Post by DGP1 »

subareadeliverye5 wrote:stop looking at an empty glass lads! nothing will change in the next 12 months believe me. the union are in charge and thats the way its gona stay!! 97% support for strikes do you think leighton took any notice? OF COURSE HE DID! we are many they are few!!

Bo****ks, forcing through EA in my office, union being sidelined because it's only LOCAL and has no real power many in my office are now ready to take unofficial IA because of it, so for all you lot in MC's and large DO's the smaller ones are now being picked off because of this crappy deal (which hasn't even been agreed) :sad:
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Post by KawasakiKid »

subareadeliverye5 wrote:stop looking at an empty glass lads! nothing will change in the next 12 months believe me. the union are in charge and thats the way its gona stay!! 97% support for strikes do you think leighton took any notice? OF COURSE HE DID! we are many they are few!!
What glass are you drinking out of, can I have one? My lying, deceitful, bullying DOM, has a lying, deceitful, bullying DSM. Consequently we have a stressful, low morale very unhappy DO. Flexibility means that all these issues are going away. IN YOUR DREAMS subarea5 -------------A KONCERNED KWAK :nervous :nervous :nervous
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Post by bigsharkboy »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
subareadeliverye5 wrote:stop looking at an empty glass lads! nothing will change in the next 12 months believe me. the union are in charge and thats the way its gona stay!! 97% support for strikes do you think leighton took any notice? OF COURSE HE DID! we are many they are few!!

Bo****ks, forcing through EA in my office, union being sidelined because it's only LOCAL and has no real power many in my office are now ready to take unofficial IA because of it, so for all you lot in MC's and large DO's the smaller ones are now being picked off because of this crappy deal (which hasn't even been agreed) :sad:

i totally second the above the large mc and large DO with strong local union reps are ok (including london)

the rest are left high and dry

we are a national union about time we started acting like one and stop pushing agreements down to local level where our doms dont abide by em anyway

my office supported the strike action (mainly) and now feel hugely let down and other branches asking for a yes vote shame on you ]

its the im alright jack feck everyone else

we are a national union not a local union

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Post by dongash »

royal mail DO fear a NO vote ! ............. you only have to see the "money will be in your pay packets for xmas" shite on the propaganda board in an office near you!!!! :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo :lfo :cfo