dingo wrote:Dvbuk the cut off of the 28th January is for offices who have yet to have a seqeucning revision which introduces a 39 hour week for full timers and an increase in the hourly rate for part times and delivers the £800 payment ( £600 and £200 ).
If you have not had this by the 28th January due to where your office has been in the programme then your will be entitled to an hours credit for each week that you have not introduced a 39 hour week. For part timers they will automatically get an increase on the hourly rate.
Now the CWUs postion is that we believe the hour should be banked each week until they introduce the revison. It worked in the mail centres and they had the choice of either SA or annual leave on what hours were banked.
Of course it would not apply to any office who is currently on 39 hours as they have already had a reduction in the working week even thou some may now be doing more work as result of increasing their productivty. The most they should be working excluding paid meal reliefs is 36 hours 20 mins.
Well there are two things here dingo that require clarifying, are we to understand that £800 is to be paid to offices without a revision on the 28th January and that it's not possible to bank the 12 minutes a day instead of starting 12 minutes later? If offices start banking hours then have a revision will the 1 hour a week be precluded from the revision and that they will have to have a reduction of the working day by 12 minutes? If not then it will be yet one more practice not allowed to those of us who have had a revision for the last two years before all these little "new" agreements are taking place, it's not the winners and losers scenario again is it? Why could the union not have negotiated the changes to incorporate everyone - for a change.
I would also remind you that there are vastly more delivery offices than Mail Centres and that thanks to BT2010 they are now working vastly different practices across the land. I'm glad you say "should" be working dingo but in reality there are part timers working longer than their contracted hours and many full timers not taking meal reliefs because of the pressure on deliveries and working longer than their contracted hours by not taking meal reliefs.
Instead of banking hours why not use the hour to reduce / scrap lapsing on the quiet days. To be honest there is no way i would trust Royal Mail to play fair with banked hours.
No those offices will not be getting the £800 from the 28th January. They will get the shorter working week credit. No they cannot all absorb 12 minutes per day , and not all offices are a 5 day week , some are 9 day fortnights , some are 4 day weeks.
if the CWU simply said you could all come in later , imagine how many would shout how do you know if an office can give up in an office of 50 full time staff 50 hours per week without a planned revison.
dingo wrote:No those offices will not be getting the £800 from the 28th January. They will get the shorter working week credit. No they cannot all absorb 12 minutes per day , and not all offices are a 5 day week , some are 9 day fortnights , some are 4 day weeks.
if the CWU simply said you could all come in later , imagine how many would shout how do you know if an office can give up in an office of 50 full time staff 50 hours per week without a planned revison.
More to the point how do you know unless the question is asked of the offices and in reality the absoption of the work with 12 minutes less per day already happens and so it shouldn't make a difference. Well it wouldn't be the staff who are shouting it might be RM but then 12 minutes a day is in their favour isn't it because in truth the member gains nothing because they are covering the same deliveries and more on a shorter working week.
dingo wrote:No those offices will not be getting the £800 from the 28th January. They will get the shorter working week credit. No they cannot all absorb 12 minutes per day , and not all offices are a 5 day week , some are 9 day fortnights , some are 4 day weeks.
if the CWU simply said you could all come in later , imagine how many would shout how do you know if an office can give up in an office of 50 full time staff 50 hours per week without a planned revison.
More to the point how do you know unless the question is asked of the offices and in reality the absoption of the work with 12 minutes less per day already happens and so it shouldn't make a difference. Well it wouldn't be the staff who are shouting it might be RM but then 12 minutes a day is in their favour isn't it because in truth the member gains nothing because they are covering the same deliveries and more on a shorter working week.
The underlying principle is the same. You have X time for the delivery. You have Y hours (whatever they are). You have a choice.
The minutes reduced under the agreement a day mean bugger all. Time is time. Cut off is cut off. Extended is extended. Case is closed