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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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DB1100 wrote: you were the one who reduced this topic to having a go at me.
It wasn't a go at you.
It was just a general comment at the whole "i don't give a s**t" attitude of some members which changes to "I'm a union member,get me out of this s**t" very quickly the minute it hits the fan.

Lots of RM rules are over officious bollocks and many of them are really stupid but they are still the rules. :neutral:
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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fishtank wrote:
DB1100 wrote: you were the one who reduced this topic to having a go at me.
It wasn't a go at you.
It was just a general comment at the whole "i don't give a s**t" attitude of some members which changes to "I'm a union member,get me out of this s**t" very quickly the minute it hits the fan.

Lots of RM rules are over officious bollocks and many of them are really stupid but they are still the rules. :neutral:
Fair enough,maybe I was a bit hasty.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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clashcityrocker wrote:PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT
(This PPE is to be provided & used, as specified, by people undertaking this task / using this work equipment)
Item

Hi Visibility waistcoat/jacket
Uniform Stores
Management order

Try reading the SSOW and not just the bits you want.
Calm down,I only said that I couldn't see it,no need to get stressed out.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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DB1100 wrote:You do not have to wear a high vis jacket whilst you are delivering,you do have to wear it if you are a driver, and in the yard,I now await incoming from the health and safety police.
DB - first you posted incorrect information. The hi-viz is part of the PPE. It says so in the SSOW even if you can't find it.
You also (in another thread) made the remark about "people grassing their mothers up. I'm glad I don't work with them."
You have probably never had to represent a member in a conduct case where he has deliberately flouted H&S rules.
The "time of the month" remark ........How old are you? About 12?
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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clashcityrocker wrote:
DB1100 wrote:You do not have to wear a high vis jacket whilst you are delivering,you do have to wear it if you are a driver, and in the yard,I now await incoming from the health and safety police.
DB - first you posted incorrect information. The hi-viz is part of the PPE. It says so in the SSOW even if you can't find it.
You also (in another thread) made the remark about "people grassing their mothers up. I'm glad I don't work with them."
You have probably never had to represent a member in a conduct case where he has deliberately flouted H&S rules.
The "time of the month" remark ........How old are you? About 12?
I made that remark about the time of month because you fly off the handle way too quick the only thing I refer to about the hi viz vest is the uniform regs and in there it doesn't state that you have to wear hi viz whilst delivering,I have been stopped twice by I.B whilst delivering (on foot) for routine checks,all the stuff about having specials and making sure my pouch only had the correct stuff in ,I was asked about hi viz and I said I wore it in the yard but not on delivery,I didn't have to explain why I didn't have it on me.About the people grassing their mothers up,most days I hear people moaning to managers about people that finish earlier than them and how some people sneak off I.P before their correct time and that's what I meant.Now chill out and talk to me like I talk to you i.e like we are face to face.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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"Thank f=-k,somebody else who thinks like me,half the people on here would grass there own mothers up,thank god I don't work with them."

So the remark had nothing to do with people in your DO running to managers did it? It was aimed specifically at people on here wasn't it?

"I await incoming from H&S police"

So your aim was to be deliberately antagonistic wasn't it?

As for flying off the handle........
I think the post about the hi-viz being in the SSOW of the HCT was made about 24 hours after yours.

So I'll keep my hair on, even though it is my time of the month.
You try and be a bit more honest.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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clashcityrocker wrote:"Thank f=-k,somebody else who thinks like me,half the people on here would grass there own mothers up,thank god I don't work with them."

So the remark had nothing to do with people in your DO running to managers did it? It was aimed specifically at people on here wasn't it?

"I await incoming from H&S police"

So your aim was to be deliberately antagonistic wasn't it?

As for flying off the handle........
I think the post about the hi-viz being in the SSOW of the HCT was made about 24 hours after yours.

So I'll keep my hair on, even though it is my time of the month.
You try and be a bit more honest.
After reading some of the post's on here I do stand by the remark that I wouldn't like to work with them,I do see it in my office and I see it on here about grassing people up,most people are very quick to have a go at the poor sod that leaves his keys in the van,yes we all know it's wrong,same as we all know it's wrong to have more than one parcel on the front seat when you are delivering parcels,we know it's wrong to doorstep parcels but I and many more people doorstep plants albeit out of sight,as for the health and safety police I do believe in health and safety but some of the rules that RM and other companies have have nothing to do with the welfare of their workers and are enforced solely to try and cover their backs,there is plans underfoot to get rid of some of the more ludicrous rules and IMHO it cannot happen soon enough.Right answer that sensibly
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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Some people are bullied to go faster, so they do break the rules, while others do it to finish early. Why should the short cut merchants get away with it, its not "grassing" when the managers are using the short cut times to bully the people who are doing it right to go faster.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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DB1100 wrote: After reading some of the post's on here I do stand by the remark that I wouldn't like to work with them,I do see it in my office and I see it on here about grassing people up,most people are very quick to have a go at the poor sod that leaves his keys in the van,yes we all know it's wrong,same as we all know it's wrong to have more than one parcel on the front seat when you are delivering parcels,we know it's wrong to doorstep parcels but I and many more people doorstep plants albeit out of sight,as for the health and safety police I do believe in health and safety but some of the rules that RM and other companies have have nothing to do with the welfare of their workers and are enforced solely to try and cover their backs,there is plans underfoot to get rid of some of the more ludicrous rules and IMHO it cannot happen soon enough.Right answer that sensibly
I think you are confusing yourself,no one is grassing on any one.
And the rules is the rules,and not following the rules can get someone a p45.

Simple really.
About the people grassing their mothers up,most days I hear people moaning to managers about people that finish earlier than them and how some people sneak off I.P before their correct time and that's what I meant.
That is your office and feck all to do with this site and us.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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POSTMAN wrote:
DB1100 wrote: After reading some of the post's on here I do stand by the remark that I wouldn't like to work with them,I do see it in my office and I see it on here about grassing people up,most people are very quick to have a go at the poor sod that leaves his keys in the van,yes we all know it's wrong,same as we all know it's wrong to have more than one parcel on the front seat when you are delivering parcels,we know it's wrong to doorstep parcels but I and many more people doorstep plants albeit out of sight,as for the health and safety police I do believe in health and safety but some of the rules that RM and other companies have have nothing to do with the welfare of their workers and are enforced solely to try and cover their backs,there is plans underfoot to get rid of some of the more ludicrous rules and IMHO it cannot happen soon enough.Right answer that sensibly
I think you are confusing yourself,no one is grassing on any one.
And the rules is the rules,and not following the rules can get someone a p45.

Simple really.
About the people grassing their mothers up,most days I hear people moaning to managers about people that finish earlier than them and how some people sneak off I.P before their correct time and that's what I meant.
That is your office and feck all to do with this site and us.
There was a post on this site somewhere about a manager getting caught bringing fags back,and as it turned out he was a right tw8t and in the past he has been responsible for getting good posties sacked,I don't know how to link to it,in the same post it said that he had given people their money back call me old fashioned but people were quite happy to give this person their money in the hope of getting a few cheap fags,then everybody wants to grass him to moya in the hope that he loses his job,so who's worse the manager or the hypocrites that turned a blind eye to the sacking of workers while they were in line to get a few cheap fags,that is just one case.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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DB1100 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
DB1100 wrote: After reading some of the post's on here I do stand by the remark that I wouldn't like to work with them,I do see it in my office and I see it on here about grassing people up,most people are very quick to have a go at the poor sod that leaves his keys in the van,yes we all know it's wrong,same as we all know it's wrong to have more than one parcel on the front seat when you are delivering parcels,we know it's wrong to doorstep parcels but I and many more people doorstep plants albeit out of sight,as for the health and safety police I do believe in health and safety but some of the rules that RM and other companies have have nothing to do with the welfare of their workers and are enforced solely to try and cover their backs,there is plans underfoot to get rid of some of the more ludicrous rules and IMHO it cannot happen soon enough.Right answer that sensibly
I think you are confusing yourself,no one is grassing on any one.
And the rules is the rules,and not following the rules can get someone a p45.

Simple really.
About the people grassing their mothers up,most days I hear people moaning to managers about people that finish earlier than them and how some people sneak off I.P before their correct time and that's what I meant.
That is your office and feck all to do with this site and us.
There was a post on this site somewhere about a manager getting caught bringing fags back,and as it turned out he was a right tw8t and in the past he has been responsible for getting good posties sacked,I don't know how to link to it,in the same post it said that he had given people their money back call me old fashioned but people were quite happy to give this person their money in the hope of getting a few cheap fags,then everybody wants to grass him to moya in the hope that he loses his job,so who's worse the manager or the hypocrites that turned a blind eye to the sacking of workers while they were in line to get a few cheap fags,that is just one case.
Yep i rem it,but it's not my bag personally to do business with scum like that,maybe those mugs should look at themselves in the mirror.
Another office full of w*****s
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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POSTMAN wrote:
DB1100 wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
DB1100 wrote: After reading some of the post's on here I do stand by the remark that I wouldn't like to work with them,I do see it in my office and I see it on here about grassing people up,most people are very quick to have a go at the poor sod that leaves his keys in the van,yes we all know it's wrong,same as we all know it's wrong to have more than one parcel on the front seat when you are delivering parcels,we know it's wrong to doorstep parcels but I and many more people doorstep plants albeit out of sight,as for the health and safety police I do believe in health and safety but some of the rules that RM and other companies have have nothing to do with the welfare of their workers and are enforced solely to try and cover their backs,there is plans underfoot to get rid of some of the more ludicrous rules and IMHO it cannot happen soon enough.Right answer that sensibly
I think you are confusing yourself,no one is grassing on any one.
And the rules is the rules,and not following the rules can get someone a p45.

Simple really.
About the people grassing their mothers up,most days I hear people moaning to managers about people that finish earlier than them and how some people sneak off I.P before their correct time and that's what I meant.
That is your office and feck all to do with this site and us.
There was a post on this site somewhere about a manager getting caught bringing fags back,and as it turned out he was a right tw8t and in the past he has been responsible for getting good posties sacked,I don't know how to link to it,in the same post it said that he had given people their money back call me old fashioned but people were quite happy to give this person their money in the hope of getting a few cheap fags,then everybody wants to grass him to moya in the hope that he loses his job,so who's worse the manager or the hypocrites that turned a blind eye to the sacking of workers while they were in line to get a few cheap fags,that is just one case.
Yep i rem it,but it's not my bag personally to do business with scum like that,maybe those mugs should look at themselves in the mirror.
Another office full of w*****s
Yes,I agree anyway I'm going to call a truce over Christmas and try not to argue,even the troops in the trenches in the first world war managed that.
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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DB1100 wrote:
Yes,I agree anyway I'm going to call a truce over Christmas and try not to argue,even the troops in the trenches in the first world war managed that.
As long as everyone wears a hi-viz for the obligatory game of football - I'm happy.
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Oh for fecks sake DB don't back down now, it was just getting interesting :wink: :angel
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Re: HIGH VIS AND SEAT BELTS

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clashcityrocker wrote:
DB1100 wrote:
Yes,I agree anyway I'm going to call a truce over Christmas and try not to argue,even the troops in the trenches in the first world war managed that.
As long as everyone wears a hi-viz for the obligatory game of football - I'm happy.
No,but using them as goal posts is ok,I'm trying god knows I,m trying.
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