I would refuse to deliver there for "health and safety" reasons, tell the manager to go there himself and do a risk assessment, if necessary threaten to ballot for industrial action if threatened by the DOM, your health and safety is paramount above operational expediency, if you get suspended, the next Postman will have to do the job and he must also be refuse for the same reasons and the next, the whole office has a stake in this as its their Health and safety at risk.
Always empathise "Health and safety" not because you don't want to do it.
That said I am not keen on Travellers, my experience of them are not positive shall we say
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Biker Mouse
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Re: advice on gypsy site
Do you deliver D2D's there? 
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Re: advice on gypsy site
Is anyones?NWpostie wrote:I would refuse to deliver there for "health and safety" reasons, tell the manager to go there himself and do a risk assessment, if necessary threaten to ballot for industrial action if threatened by the DOM, your health and safety is paramount above operational expediency, if you get suspended, the next Postman will have to do the job and he must also be refuse for the same reasons and the next, the whole office has a stake in this as its their Health and safety at risk.
Always empathise "Health and safety" not because you don't want to do it.
That said I am not keen on Travellers, my experience of them are not positive shall we say
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Thehair
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Re: advice on gypsy site
Simples: You feel threatened, and refuse to deliver to an unathorised makeshift delivery point, Get your Delivery Office Manager to manage the situation. The clue's in his/her job title.
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I used to enjoy delivering to a gypsy site.NWpostie wrote:
That said I am not keen on Travellers, my experience of them are not positive shall we say
I used to get there at lunchtime and they'd always put a hedgehog on for me.
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dvbuk55
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Roadkill I presume.clashcityrocker wrote:I used to enjoy delivering to a gypsy site.NWpostie wrote:
That said I am not keen on Travellers, my experience of them are not positive shall we say
I used to get there at lunchtime and they'd always put a hedgehog on for me.
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The wanderer
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Re: advice on gypsy site
How can you deliver mail to people who don't have a permanent address, it's like giving mail away to strangers, how do you know which letter is for who, I mean are all the caravans numbered?
Surely you need a fixed address and that is the farmhouse otherwise the chance of fraud is very high.
Explain this to your DOM, it's a good argument and it makes sense for security reasons.
Surely you need a fixed address and that is the farmhouse otherwise the chance of fraud is very high.
Explain this to your DOM, it's a good argument and it makes sense for security reasons.
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Surely the address is fixed enough for them to get benefits.The wanderer wrote:How can you deliver mail to people who don't have a permanent address, it's like giving mail away to strangers, how do you know which letter is for who, I mean are all the caravans numbered?
Surely you need a fixed address and that is the farmhouse otherwise the chance of fraud is very high.
Explain this to your DOM, it's a good argument and it makes sense for security reasons.
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The wanderer
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That's a good point, I don't know how they get their benefits.Lounge Lizard wrote:Surely the address is fixed enough for them to get benefits.
I thought benefits were paid directly into a bank accounts these days.
What are the addresses on these letters like?
Is it something like "Tinker Tony C/O illegal camp site round the back of the farmhouse".
I mean what do the addresses actually say?
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Re: advice on gypsy site
And it all comes down to you
Well, you know that it does
Well, lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice
Ah, and it lights up the night
And you see your gypsy
You see your gypsy
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Well, you know that it does
Well, lightning strikes, maybe once, maybe twice
Ah, and it lights up the night
And you see your gypsy
You see your gypsy
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The wanderer
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Re: advice on gypsy site
And the caravan is on its way
I can hear the merry gypsies play
And the caravan has all my friends
It will stay with me until the end
Turn up your radio and let me hear the song
Then we can get down to what is really wrong
I long to hold you tight so I can feel you
Sweet lady of the night I shall reveal you
Barefoot gypsy player round the campfire sing and play
And a woman tells us of her ways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXDrV0Ov9M
I can hear the merry gypsies play
And the caravan has all my friends
It will stay with me until the end
Turn up your radio and let me hear the song
Then we can get down to what is really wrong
I long to hold you tight so I can feel you
Sweet lady of the night I shall reveal you
Barefoot gypsy player round the campfire sing and play
And a woman tells us of her ways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXDrV0Ov9M
I always feel like someone is watching me.
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The wanderer
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Re: advice on gypsy site
Unfortunately the romantic vision of gypsies has very little in common with the reality of todays gypsy sites.
Back to the OP, what sort of abuse are you getting?
Back to the OP, what sort of abuse are you getting?
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