2 THINGS ALL DELIVERY ROYAL MAIL STAFF SHOULD DO.

[Lovemoney]

oh yes! I been checking rm jobs page can see more 22.5hrs vacancy coming up

[pickaname]

it would be great if all delivery staff could do this but they will not...most cannot shake off the mind set of "making time" this is the reality....i do sympathise with part-time staff and their predicament, however things are only going to get worse...more part-time is royal mails aim.

its RM who should shake off the idea of posties making time.

people work at different speeds for varying reasons and workloads vary from day to day.

job and finish solved a lot of problems and arguments and if RM actually made walks that were acheivable J+F make perfect sense.

[Stormproof]

we all have to stick together through this mess
firstly DO NOT GO INTO WORK BEFORE YOUR START TIME.
secondly FINISH TO YOUR CONTRACTED HOURS.
if all staff followed these two steps,our job would be so much easier.
come on you weak staff out there show some guts and bloody stick together.

Re: Repick and contracted hours!
by comeracing » Sun May 29, 2011 7:24,pm

were just going through a re pick soon but trying to get the union involved,full timers are ok ,its the part timers who are going to suffer ,im on 36 hrs a week ,work longer hours than full timers,go over most days totally fed up,and guess what they now want me to deliver parcels and tracked items from a van,im currently using a bike,all i want is to work approx my 36 hrs per week im fairly senior so will prob keep my duty,told the dom my hours are wrong,but guess what he makes excuses up all the time.HAVE NOW DECIDED AFTER RE PICK WORKING TO MY FINISH TIME,just wondering if i do this will he put me on other duties if so i will just have to grin and bear it.

Make your mind up, you can't have it both ways

[spen]

FINISH AT YOUR CONTRACTED HOURS,, im guessing your a full timer n not a 20 hour part timer who relies on an hour or 2 overtime every day just to pay the mortgage

Why accept a Part Time Contract if you need a Full Time job to pay the mortgage ?

Wow, you can get a mortgage?

Theres are tens of thousands of people in this country on vastly superior wages who cant.

May I suggest you be thankful for what youve got and dont bemoan what you havent...

firstly iv had the mortgage many years there, is no way i wouldve got one now i work for royal mail and luckily the mrs has a good job.

secondly how bored do i get of hearing the line" be thankfull you got a job" sounds very much like my dom

[spen]

it would be great if all delivery staff could do this but they will not...most cannot shake off the mind set of "making time" this is the reality....i do sympathise with part-time staff and their predicament, however things are only going to get worse...more part-time is royal mails aim.

agree totally,, and this plays nicely into royal mails hands,, at a guess i would say that quite a high percentage of part timers are not union members

[comeracing]

we all have to stick together through this mess
firstly DO NOT GO INTO WORK BEFORE YOUR START TIME.
secondly FINISH TO YOUR CONTRACTED HOURS.
if all staff followed these two steps,our job would be so much easier.
come on you weak staff out there show some guts and bloody stick together.

Re: Repick and contracted hours!
by comeracing » Sun May 29, 2011 7:24,pm

were just going through a re pick soon but trying to get the union involved,full timers are ok ,its the part timers who are going to suffer ,im on 36 hrs a week ,work longer hours than full timers,go over most days totally fed up,and guess what they now want me to deliver parcels and tracked items from a van,im currently using a bike,all i want is to work approx my 36 hrs per week im fairly senior so will prob keep my duty,told the dom my hours are wrong,but guess what he makes excuses up all the time.HAVE NOW DECIDED AFTER RE PICK WORKING TO MY FINISH TIME,just wondering if i do this will he put me on other duties if so i will just have to grin and bear it.

Make your mind up, you can't have it both ways

what waffle are you talking about,if you read PROPERLY,you will see that if EVERYBODY STARTS ON TIME.and works to THERE TIME,royal mail might do something about UNACHEIVABLE DUTIES,NOBODY ARE BREAKING ANY RULES IF THEY DO THIS.trouble in our office like many others WE DONT STICK TOGETHER.GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

[rhino49]

one thing all part time delivery staff should do is forget about being on a 40 hr or 39 hr contract that aint gonna happen 30 hr maximum.
i been workin for this firm (its not a public service anymore) for 23 yrs and guess what they told me at the interview "you will probably be on full time hrs (41.1/2hrs)
within 2 months it took a transfer to another office and 4 years before full time. any full time jobs that go out of delivery will never be replaced.

Our DOM has had part timers made up to full time and other part timers contracted hours increased to maintain the office profile in line with the agreement and has assured us that staff leaving or changing contracts will continue to be replaced like for like. We are doing our bit - he is doing his !!! We have had continual staff and duty reductions over a number of years so maybe we have now reached an optimum level and RM are happy with that.

[Stormproof]

I'm just pointing out that in a previous post you are saying YOU WORK OVER and when the repick happens you are going to work to time and in another post you are telling people to work to time.

[maisymoo04]

FINISH AT YOUR CONTRACTED HOURS,, im guessing your a full timer n not a 20 hour part timer who relies on an hour or 2 overtime every day just to pay the mortgage

no mate im on 36 hrs a week ,if your not happy on 20 hrs a week,get a job in a factory 6-2 every week,many of our foriegn friends are doing this DO YOU HEAR THEM MOAN,exactly.

im not moaning about it, far from it, im just pointing out how it is,, n unfortunatley there are many more in the same boots

spen part timers in our office mate last to come in first out and first finish.and if ye gettin 2 hours aday ye not really partime our ye,make ye hours up to full time with ye overtime you dont do correct

[spen]

FINISH AT YOUR CONTRACTED HOURS,, im guessing your a full timer n not a 20 hour part timer who relies on an hour or 2 overtime every day just to pay the mortgage

no mate im on 36 hrs a week ,if your not happy on 20 hrs a week,get a job in a factory 6-2 every week,many of our foriegn friends are doing this DO YOU HEAR THEM MOAN,exactly.

im not moaning about it, far from it, im just pointing out how it is,, n unfortunatley there are many more in the same boots

spen part timers in our office mate last to come in first out and first finish.and if ye gettin 2 hours aday ye not really partime our ye,make ye hours up to full time with ye overtime you dont do correct

totaly agree with what your saying,, but overtime cant allways be rellied on sometimes its not there,,,but the point i was trying make is,,all you ever hear is work your contracted hours,,, if your on a part time contract its not allways possible, the overtime is very usefull

[Dorset Plodder]

Mentioned this problem to our Area CWU Rep before the last Industrial Action Spen. PTers were being asked to "work properly" and I pointed out you can't live on those hours. His answer made sense. If YOU are happy to work any extra hours and the DIM IS PAYING YOU FOR IT! Then no problem.

What they were trying to stop was ANYBODY working for FREE. Not claiming Meal Relief or OT and coming in early for Free!. As for the "Lucky you've got a job/Why accept PT/Be grateful for what you've got" Brigade. Let's try and be a bit more supportive guy's we get enough grief from Management! How many of the names at the bottom of the page never post anything as they're worried they'll get a good slagging down.

[Lincox]

Looking at this thread and the arguments that arise between full timers and part timers, it is distressing to realise that Royal Mail has got us all by the b-ll-ks. There is absolutely no chance of a united stance against this ruthless employer as there is far too much personal intervention due to individual circumstances as a result of part time and full time contracts. I fully understand why some part timers need to work over. I am part time but fortunately not in a position to need to work over. An ethical employer would have an automatic system of moving part time to full time as soon as there was a position. This employer choses not to, as it can exert more control over a workforce that is divided and has no power to change the system.

[spen]

Looking at this thread and the arguments that arise between full timers and part timers, it is distressing to realise that Royal Mail has got us all by the b-ll-ks. There is absolutely no chance of a united stance against this ruthless employer as there is far too much personal intervention due to individual circumstances as a result of part time and full time contracts. I fully understand why some part timers need to work over. I am part time but fortunately not in a position to need to work over. An ethical employer would have an automatic system of moving part time to full time as soon as there was a position. This employer choses not to, as it can exert more control over a workforce that is divided and has no power to change the system.

agreed,, but even after everything thats been said, if the union went for ia i would defo stand with them

[Dorset Plodder]

Totally Agree Lincox...Divide and Rule a centuries old Management Tactic! As for ethical employers I'm sure RM would have 5 year old orphans sorting on IPS (ala SE Asian sweat shops) if they thought they could get away with it, and it'd help their Bonus'!

[ziko]

we all have to stick together through this mess
firstly DO NOT GO INTO WORK BEFORE YOUR START TIME.
secondly FINISH TO YOUR CONTRACTED HOURS.
if all staff followed these two steps,our job would be so much easier.
come on you weak staff out there show some guts and bloody stick together.

I agree going back to your original quote Start on time finish on time.