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Post by **evilc** » 27 Jun 2007, 18:27

[quote="Codebreaker"]dman - we both work at Plymouth MDEC.

I have known 100% for weeks that the 2 most senior Managers on site at MDEC Plymouth log on and look here.

I have never had a problem with that. If POSTMAN says they cannot get our IP addresses then that I take as Gospel.

Let us hope that at todays meeting a form of words can be agreed to allow the strike on friday to be postponed, incidentally you are working on friday as the cma are not in dispute with Royal Mail, the only time i can remember the cma being in dispute and taken some action nobody realised they were missing.

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 27 Jun 2007, 18:29

Accept that you have a bleak future ahead of you. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it, except
to embrace this brave new world for postalworkers. Or crap to that effect , that's my guess at what his answer
will be. :lfo :cfo

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 27 Jun 2007, 18:32

DirtyHarry wrote:Accept that you have a bleak future ahead of you. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it, except
to embrace this brave new world for postalworkers. Or crap to that effect , that's my guess at what his answer
will be. :lfo :cfo

Which is certainly the answer I would expect from the holidaymakers allegedly 'managing' our office. Incredible really as the father of one was a good union man and as nice a bloke you could wish to meet. I would die of shame if either of my kids turned out to be a puppet of the ruling class.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 27 Jun 2007, 18:42

I agree with the first part but Royal Mail left us no choice when they refused to compromise on the pay deal. However don't agree with the competition bit as its not real but a contrived form of competition at the moment so now is probably the best time to strike.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 27 Jun 2007, 18:52

mpeard wrote:Perhaps a better approach for the future of the business would have been to engage the CMA and the CWU in a joint approach.

No thanks. That's a bit like going for a pint with someone who held the coats of the gang who beat you up and stole your wallet.

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 27 Jun 2007, 19:38

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:Accept that you have a bleak future ahead of you. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it, except
to embrace this brave new world for postalworkers. Or crap to that effect , that's my guess at what his answer
will be. :lfo :cfo

Which is certainly the answer I would expect from the holidaymakers allegedly 'managing' our office. Incredible really as the father of one was a good union man and as nice a bloke you could wish to meet. I would die of shame if either of my kids turned out to be a puppet of the ruling class.

I know what you mean mate !

Post by **evilc** » 27 Jun 2007, 19:48

If that was the case that staff refused to work unsupervised, it is a shame the managers cannot support the cwu now and refuse to perform posties work.

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 27 Jun 2007, 20:46

MPEARD

I actually respect the fact that you've had the balls to admit who you are and make a post on here with your opinions, I wish all screws had the intelligence to decide what to do for themselves rather than following the corporate line ALL of the time.

HOWEVER I do not agree that we should not be using strike action as the only alternative at this stage (bearing in mind all forms of negotiation, including acas, have failed many times) would be a work to rule. RM have been very shrewd over the past few years and by implimenting "job and knock" people now work harder than they otherwise would and use methods they shouldn't, just to get away a few minutes earlier. This attitude is now virtually impossible to change and a work to rule would struggle to get full support with people insisting that they need to get done and get away.

It is a strange anomaly that people would not risk losing an hour in their afternoons but will risk losing a full days pay to go out on strike i agree, but the feeling among staff is so strong at the moment people will do just that.

This is simply the strongest message we can send to 2 people (Leighton & Crozier) that otherwise refuse to listen.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 27 Jun 2007, 22:21

What's happened mpeard,why have you edited your posts?

Codebreaker · Post by **Codebreaker** » 27 Jun 2007, 22:22

"Anyway - fire away with the dismissive responses. If you're from MDEC come and talk to me. You can wear a bag over your head if you don't want me to know who you are.

mpeard"

Mark

Have you any idea how patronising that sounds?

If you think you know who I am then why on this Earth would you suggest I wear a bag over my head? Or indeed anyone else.

I don't think you are the 'type' of Manager to hang around for a while - you are too intelligent to NOT realise that you are valued and therefore have a good future at MDEC Plymouth. HOWEVER...

From your post I suggest it may be a good idea to think about how you are interacting with people. If it is relevent HERE then it must surely bleed over to your 9-5 (ish) activities.

PS: Did you have a fruitful and beneficial day for RM when you were "working from home" one day this week?

The CMA is an Association - the CWU is a Union - not really up for comparison.

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 28 Jun 2007, 10:47

oh dear has mpeard been gagged by his bosses.

How unusual, RM not wanting it's managers to talk openly and honestly with us.

Normal service has been resumed then.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 28 Jun 2007, 13:57

He's asked for his account and posts to be deleted,which i have done.

billypants · Post by **billypants** » 28 Jun 2007, 14:08

can I ask if he gave a reason ?

Post by **dman** » 28 Jun 2007, 14:46

POSTMAN wrote:He's asked for his account and posts to be deleted,which i have done.

was it something i said

see i go away for one day and this thread goes crazy and i miss it all

good job someone quoted mark peard so that i could see at least some of the things he said

shame he left though

Post by **evilc** » 28 Jun 2007, 16:18

billypants wrote:oh dear has mpeard been gagged by his bosses. How unusual, RM not wanting it's managers to talk openly and honestly with us. Normal service has been resumed then.

That sounds about right,it is a shame cause as Managers go Mpeard is quite an amiable person.

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