ELECTION MATERIAL AGREEMENTS AND LTBS

[wingmanchillian]

anybody got an update on this?

we're still being told its a no no atm.

Well we've been paid for all polling cards, wether they came through DSA or not. We were just told to strip them from any walksorted bundles, and count them. Our rep showed the dom the agreement (thanks Midge), and we were duly paid.

cheers for the info Pinky1. we've got the agreement at work but still no joy atm. sure we will get it just would be nice not to have to fight for it.

[peedofpostie]

why have a rate of between 3p-6p some people are getting paid double for doing same job is this not discrimination ?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

why have a rate of between 3p-6p some people are getting paid double for doing same job is this not discrimination ?

The answer is at para 4 of a previous post in this thread: Quoted below for ease of reference:

4) Payments
All existing local payments covering the delivery of election material as stated in
paragraph 2 above will remain in place, and in accordance with this agreement, with the
following exceptions.
1. The minimum payment for delivering election material will be 3p per item.
2. The maximum payment for delivering election material will be 6.6p per item.
3. All hours based schemes will be converted to pence per item schemes and then the
criteria in 1 and 2 above will be applied. Where delivery offices have introduced a SDD
revision since the last delivery of election material then the following formula will be
applied prior to the criteria in 1 and 2 above being applied.
Previous no. Walks X O/T hours per walk e.g. 35 X 2 hrs hours = 3.5hrs
Current no. of Walks 20
4. In those Units where there are two payments e.g. 4.5p for the first three parties and
1.67p for additional parties the minimum payment will become 3p with any payments over
this amount being retained.
5. In those Units where there is a mixture of hours and pence per item based payments
the process in 4) 3. above will be followed for the hours based element, with the process
in 4) 4. above then being applied.
Where election material items exceed 20g in weight a further 0.5p will be payable.
These revised payments apply from the date of this agreement and cover all election
material as identified above. They are payable on an individual basis, and are not affected
by any collective criteria/responsibility.

[peedofpostie]

why have a rate of between 3p-6p some people are getting paid double for doing same job is this not discrimination ?

The answer is at para 4 of a previous post in this thread: Quoted below for ease of reference:

4) Payments
All existing local payments covering the delivery of election material as stated in
paragraph 2 above will remain in place, and in accordance with this agreement, with the
following exceptions.
1. The minimum payment for delivering election material will be 3p per item.
2. The maximum payment for delivering election material will be 6.6p per item.
3. All hours based schemes will be converted to pence per item schemes and then the
criteria in 1 and 2 above will be applied. Where delivery offices have introduced a SDD
revision since the last delivery of election material then the following formula will be
applied prior to the criteria in 1 and 2 above being applied.
Previous no. Walks X O/T hours per walk e.g. 35 X 2 hrs hours = 3.5hrs
Current no. of Walks 20
4. In those Units where there are two payments e.g. 4.5p for the first three parties and
1.67p for additional parties the minimum payment will become 3p with any payments over
this amount being retained.
5. In those Units where there is a mixture of hours and pence per item based payments
the process in 4) 3. above will be followed for the hours based element, with the process
in 4) 4. above then being applied.
Where election material items exceed 20g in weight a further 0.5p will be payable.
These revised payments apply from the date of this agreement and cover all election
material as identified above. They are payable on an individual basis, and are not affected
by any collective criteria/responsibility.

What i means is that we all do same job so why not we all get the same payment as each other so there would be no difference to anyone

[TrueBlueTerrier]

The answer is in there. But basically there where many different local methods before the agreement so the CWU and RM came to an agreement wgere no one would be out of pocket and the cost wouldn't shoot up for RM.

The 3p to 6.3p per item is the result.

I agree that we should all get the same, problem is that this in the grand scheme of things is a minor matter. But if the Union did push for an across the board payment with no loss of earnings, RM is likely to come back with a suggestion similar to the D2D into Supplements scenario. We all know what confusion and resentment that has caused.

The Union probably don't want to use their power to go to war over a releatively small matter when they think unfair competition is the real threat.

[buntin]

Ludicrous we dont all get the same pay rate for delivering these in my opinion. I e mailed dave ward last time out and told him so.