ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Million pounds a day

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat
Route1
Posts: 369
Joined: 05 Jun 2015, 00:48
Gender: Female

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by Route1 »

gil wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:20
Firms now cancelling evening collections so they don't have for and getting delivery staff to collect for free and it's only going to get worse heard on grapevine next collection revision all boxes back onto delivery staff and no more afternoon S/A :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
All our boxes went onto delivery staff in the last revision. Apparently next collection revision all s/a will go & the collections will be based from the Mail Centre like the sat / sun covid collections.
pieoftheday
Posts: 1824
Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 16:43
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by pieoftheday »

LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Nevertheless customers are still getting a collection service for free
LouBarlow
Posts: 4611
Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by LouBarlow »

pieoftheday wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 09:41
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Nevertheless customers are still getting a collection service for free
But RM are generating revenue either way. I can’t believe people are complaining about this frankly, but then posties moan about literally any change to their working day. Definitely the whiniest profession out there.
LancePercival
Posts: 26
Joined: 11 Jun 2023, 18:08
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by LancePercival »

Read one company think it was perfume shop were paying rm £12,000 pm for parcel collections, now they get it for nothing as delivery lad picks them up on his job, maybe thats what folk are going on about
LouBarlow
Posts: 4611
Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by LouBarlow »

LancePercival wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:59
Read one company think it was perfume shop were paying rm £12,000 pm for parcel collections, now they get it for nothing as delivery lad picks them up on his job, maybe thats what folk are going on about
Yeah, you read nonsense and believed it.
pieoftheday
Posts: 1824
Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 16:43
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by pieoftheday »

LouBarlow wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:42
pieoftheday wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 09:41
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Nevertheless customers are still getting a collection service for free
But RM are generating revenue either way. I can’t believe people are complaining about this frankly, but then posties moan about literally any change to their working day. Definitely the whiniest profession out there.
They're still getting a service for free, it was originally 72p now it's nothing, so its free
enskied
Posts: 1876
Joined: 16 Aug 2013, 17:14
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by enskied »

LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Each second delivery cost royal mail a fortune apparently. Yet a free collection can take three days and cost them nothing at all.
scotchy1962
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 821
Joined: 25 Mar 2020, 16:55
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by scotchy1962 »

RM have historically charged for customer collections, it wasn't that long ago that you were told not to pick up from businesses unless they are paying for collection, and that included parcels.
Now who's to say these people now get their parcels collected for free as part of the latest money making initiatives.
I think just saying its nonsense is possibly not correct, maybe it has happened.
Either way to my way of thinking RM are missing a trick, nearly every company nowadays has a charge for everything and by not charging you are encouraging the numpties, who no there's no comeback, to not worry about if it gets collected or not.
Charge them a £1 and they will care a bit more and charge them more than that and it will really sharpen their minds.
At a rough estimate i would say i have about a 60% strike rate for them since they began and i only cover 4 dutys in a small town with 7 dutys altogether.
Maybe that's good or maybe it's bad, but the time wasted waiting around and trying to get a answer surely makes the staff costs in time lost outweigh any profit in it.
But then again what do i know i am a humble postie.
postieblueshirt
Posts: 1241
Joined: 01 Oct 2019, 22:05
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by postieblueshirt »

LouBarlow wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 18:51
LancePercival wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:59
Read one company think it was perfume shop were paying rm £12,000 pm for parcel collections, now they get it for nothing as delivery lad picks them up on his job, maybe thats what folk are going on about
Yeah, you read nonsense and believed it.
yeah your right i must stop reading you posts.. :Very Happy
enskied
Posts: 1876
Joined: 16 Aug 2013, 17:14
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by enskied »

LouBarlow wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:42
pieoftheday wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 09:41
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Nevertheless customers are still getting a collection service for free
But RM are generating revenue either way. I can’t believe people are complaining about this frankly, but then posties moan about literally any change to their working day. Definitely the whiniest profession out there.
You are definitely not a postie Lou
Nickvilla20
Posts: 780
Joined: 13 May 2013, 07:30
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by Nickvilla20 »

LancePercival wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:59
Read one company think it was perfume shop were paying rm £12,000 pm for parcel collections, now they get it for nothing as delivery lad picks them up on his job, maybe thats what folk are going on about
If you do so much business with Royal Mail the collection is usually free anyway or was when I was on collections unless they have to pay extra for a lorry to go in.
Nickvilla20
Posts: 780
Joined: 13 May 2013, 07:30
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by Nickvilla20 »

pieoftheday wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 19:05
LouBarlow wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:42
pieoftheday wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 09:41
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Nevertheless customers are still getting a collection service for free
But RM are generating revenue either way. I can’t believe people are complaining about this frankly, but then posties moan about literally any change to their working day. Definitely the whiniest profession out there.
They're still getting a service for free, it was originally 72p now it's nothing, so its free
If the collection is free then you will probably get more business. How many time have you been shopping online and gone for the company that offers free delivery?

As with collections been free it sort of makes sense if you already have someone in the area delivering then it won’t cost any extra to collect. A collection usually takes no longer than delivering a parcel unless they have no idea what’s going on then it can be a problem.
LouBarlow
Posts: 4611
Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by LouBarlow »

enskied wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 21:19
LouBarlow wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 14:42
pieoftheday wrote:
08 Aug 2023, 09:41
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
Nevertheless customers are still getting a collection service for free
But RM are generating revenue either way. I can’t believe people are complaining about this frankly, but then posties moan about literally any change to their working day. Definitely the whiniest profession out there.
You are definitely not a postie Lou
I definitely am. I’m just not a serial moaner like most other posties, and can appreciate moves made by the company to safeguard my job, and yours. If it encourages more people to use us for collections, it is a wise move. Why people can’t just do the job as they are instructed I don’t know. If RM want you to pick up parcels on delivery, just do it! You are being paid to work between set hours and how those hours are filled, isn’t dictated by you. If you want that, go and start a self-employed business.
richietns
Posts: 1060
Joined: 17 Oct 2011, 18:09
Gender: Male

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by richietns »

LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
For a company losing a million a day not charging for a service doesn't make sense even if it were 30p undercutting absolutely everyone,it puts more time on going to more houses whether your in the area or not more petrol more in van if parcel not there more wasted time,company's are meant to make profit not give money away,company's who give free delivery incorporate the price into the product its nigh on a year RM just give that extra profit away,they have a history of doing stupid things you have to much faith in them.
LouBarlow
Posts: 4611
Joined: 15 Oct 2007, 18:56

Re: Million pounds a day

Post by LouBarlow »

richietns wrote:
09 Aug 2023, 07:49
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 21:32
pieoftheday wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 20:19
LouBarlow wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 19:29
Moose67 wrote:
07 Aug 2023, 18:09
We can't be losing money anymore as we keep giving away free collections to customers :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh :nana :arrrghhh
How are they free? They are still paying postage and we get all of it, in comparison to if they take it to the post office where they take their own cut. Why posties continue to complain about services that pay their wages is beyond me.
Because the collection part is the service they were paying for
And so is knocking on someone’s door to deliver a parcel. The price they are paying for postage alone is worth it for RM. Especially when you consider how much cheaper it is to send items with our competitors.
For a company losing a million a day not charging for a service doesn't make sense even if it were 30p undercutting absolutely everyone,it puts more time on going to more houses whether your in the area or not more petrol more in van if parcel not there more wasted time,company's are meant to make profit not give money away,company's who give free delivery incorporate the price into the product its nigh on a year RM just give that extra profit away,they have a history of doing stupid things you have to much faith in them.
If you charge extra on top of the postage, it will dissuade people from using the service entirely. They will simply drop it into a Post Office when passing, and we lose money via the cut the PO takes from posting this way. It is a way to build up loyalty and establish a user base that you can then eventually start charging. RM want it to be as convenient as possible to send items using its services, and offering to collect for free is just another way of doing so.