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New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

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postieblueshirt
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by postieblueshirt »

k979aaa wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 18:24
postieblueshirt wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 18:15
lee.uk wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 16:57
Hi,

I have received an email from RM with a formal offer of employment for the position of "Postperson with Driving", but no employment contract yet.

So I have no employment contract yet, only an email offering me a position.

How does today's "Yes" vote effect me?

Thanks.
As a newly appointed employee of a once great public service....you will be keen to impress your smiling manager,then you will realize your start and finish time is a mear illusion.Family friendly is a buzz work which means nothing.You will then be expected to do everything that nobody else is willing to do as you don't want to let the team down!!! Until you realize there is no team.You will be shocked and amazed by the many wonderful vehicles you will be expected to declare as roadworthy(they will baffle you as to how the pass an mot until you find out royal mail do there own mot`s.Then you will marvel at how a company can survive as you realize how badly run it is.Your technology will let you down the rain will drive you mad the heat will kill you.i could go in I've bored myself now.But look on the bright side time off during the week because you have a contract that makes you work on the 7th day.But you will be pestered routinely to work any and every day off for about £55 after tax.
Russian conscripts have contracts better than ours at least if they are dead they are not required to work!
Lol I swear a gulag would have been in better condition than my town centre leased victorian delivery office.we don't need Google to tell us it's raining the roof leaks.
ANDREW CROCOMBE
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by ANDREW CROCOMBE »

Make sure you find out exactly what the terms are, if you don't fancy it then I'd say walk away. Being a newbie you'll be chucked everywhere I expect, just give it some thought. Good luck and welcome to the lunatic asylum 🚑
Darwin
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by Darwin »

I've been with the company just over a year so have a s**t contract. Your contract, will only be marginally shittier than mine, i don't think theres much between them.
6 months trail /probation is standard in any job you get nowadays so don't worry about that. If your office is an LAT hub you might have to work sundays as part of your normal working week, my office isnt a hub so i haven't had to work any yet but if it opens sunday i would need to work sundays when required :arrrghhh
I also get paid weekly, i believe new contracts are monthly paid. Overtime i believe you will get offered 1.25 an hour but i have heard that you need to work over 40hrs before that rate is paid so read your contract thoroughly when you have access to it. Not sure if you get a paid break so again read your contract.
In regards to working days off and overtime, you will be badgered into doing both especially if your office is understaffed which seems to be the case in most offices now. If you don't want to do it then make that clear when they ask you and stick to your guns. The more work you do, the more they will ask you to do, RM love a workhorse!
norris9
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by norris9 »

I'd be surprised if someone who hasn't signed a contract yet is entitled to the £500 lump sum or the £900 lump sum....

surely you need to be employed now to qualify to get those payments.

But who knows.
Timetomoveon
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by Timetomoveon »

norris9 wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 22:04
I'd be surprised if someone who hasn't signed a contract yet is entitled to the £500 lump sum or the £900 lump sum....

surely you need to be employed now to qualify to get those payments.

But who knows.
No chance they getting it, lucky if we get it.
TopperGas
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by TopperGas »

Fairly certain that's the case but I assume new starters will get the pay rises but will also suffer the changes in the sick policy and the later start/finish times.

At the end of the day if the OP found the job offer attractive not a lot has changed for new starters to now make it that unattractive, unless they've young school aged kids!
gregs1940
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by gregs1940 »

leave before u start😂😂
bongo_fury
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by bongo_fury »

Run, you fool, and never look back!
WATP82
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by WATP82 »

Means you’ll be getting paid 20percent less than everyone else.
aiden01
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by aiden01 »

If you really want the job give it a try if you don't like it just leave.dont listen to some of the stuff on here rem most said a no but agreement was voted in so try it an good luck.
LouBarlow
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by LouBarlow »

aiden01 wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 00:36
If you really want the job give it a try if you don't like it just leave.dont listen to some of the stuff on here rem most said a no but agreement was voted in so try it an good luck.
Agreed. It is still a good job with decent pay. It is the best time of the year to give it a shot too. Beautiful weather, less mail. Doesn’t hurt to try it out for a while. Don’t listen to the perpetual moaners on here. They are a very small minority. Most of your colleagues will not be like them.
Scointer
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by Scointer »

I think I saw somewhere you need to have been employed on 26th March to get the lump sum payments. What I can’t work out is will the 6% increase also be applied on the new contracts (obviously they are already a lower pay rate with no additions and an unpaid break so not getting the 6% would be a real insult).
TopperGas
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by TopperGas »

LouBarlow wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 06:45
aiden01 wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 00:36
If you really want the job give it a try if you don't like it just leave.dont listen to some of the stuff on here rem most said a no but agreement was voted in so try it an good luck.
Agreed. It is still a good job with decent pay. It is the best time of the year to give it a shot too. Beautiful weather, less mail. Doesn’t hurt to try it out for a while. Don’t listen to the perpetual moaners on here. They are a very small minority. Most of your colleagues will not be like them.
Not sure the new starters are on decent pay, given that they get 20% less than existing staff and have no paid breaks, shop workers etc probably match or beat that now.
LouBarlow
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by LouBarlow »

TopperGas wrote:
13 Jul 2023, 20:41
LouBarlow wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 06:45
aiden01 wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 00:36
If you really want the job give it a try if you don't like it just leave.dont listen to some of the stuff on here rem most said a no but agreement was voted in so try it an good luck.
Agreed. It is still a good job with decent pay. It is the best time of the year to give it a shot too. Beautiful weather, less mail. Doesn’t hurt to try it out for a while. Don’t listen to the perpetual moaners on here. They are a very small minority. Most of your colleagues will not be like them.
Not sure the new starters are on decent pay, given that they get 20% less than existing staff and have no paid breaks, shop workers etc probably match or beat that now.
That’s fair but I’d still rather do this than be in a shop or serving burgers.
guardianangel
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Re: New Employee - What does the "Yes" vote mean for me?

Post by guardianangel »

Once youve done 20 to 30 years your back and hips will be gone your knees f----d and you will be out to pasture with enough money to buy yourself a roast dinner never to work again on disability benefit ,sounds good doesn't it.