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Thompson letter

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Aardvark
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by Aardvark »

It's the talk of a bully trying to create a climate of fear.

If we don't want to be "gig" emloyees we have to hang on in with the strikes. We must stick with the Union if they are beaten we can kiss goodbye to all our terms and conditions and any hope of decent payrises in the future.
Chitchat
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Re: Thompson letter

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I for one won't be going over and above to help clear the back log while the CEO is ignoring us!
freespeech
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by freespeech »

Chitchat wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:51
Simon knows it would only take a few concessions on their side for this to all be over. (We have made enough our side seeing as we started this as a no strings pay deal) He could end this today and we could all get on with delivering Christmas and delivery the changes the business needs. So why the silent treatment Simon?
They were concessions to the membership not RM. The business said no pay without change from day one.
N|M
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Re: Thompson letter

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supermandan2018 wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:50
derricksmyth wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:40
dolph999 wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:16
Not sure if it's genuine but from Image20221128_183200.jpg20221128_183209.jpg20221128_183215.jpg
Why is there an incomplete sentence at the end of the first page? Not at all professional!
Missing 2nd page 🙈
I dont get simon is he really stupid ?

He has a go at dave for false allegations stating the later start times, DW saying 3 hrs later is not false even in this doc it has them clearly stated that there are 3hr later then the last best offer it was changed a bit but still up to 3 hrs later - Simon sounds like his been very pedantic on very much everything.
https://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defau ... 241122.pdf
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Gasman11
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by Gasman11 »

Schiff wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:56
Time to ramp up these strikes. Thompson is as bad at his job as Ward and Pullinger are at theirs.

Until Thompson decides to get realistic about his "best and final" offer of a massive real terms pay cut, I will provide him with a massive real terms effort cut. Less money buys less work done.

Haha, like it. Will very much be adopting your proposal :thumbup
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by guardianangel »

Tell him to shove it ,all out wednesday ,thursday,i dont know who he is paying to mitigate the strikes but he needs to get his money back,our mail centre is rammed,they will soon be hiring marquees to store the parcels as for mail less said about that the better but im sure the public would like to know nhs letters,bank cards,birthday cards ,important documents are now spending weeks under frames,was told today to leave all mail again and just take tracked,roll on the xmas cards next week the public may receive them by next xmas,Thompson needs sacking before he costs lives,he is already breaking the law and uso,lets hope the board members are held accountable too for the claims and chaos that is going to happen in the next month.As for people going back in i work in a large mail centre with 100's of employees and not 1 postie has crossed the line so don't believe his propaganda.
richj2009
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by richj2009 »

One thing we all have to admit. This Thompson geezer is one brave dude. I would be petrified if a large number of people had such strong negative feelings towards me. He must have security around him most of the time I would have thought. Sorry thinking out loud 🤔
SogladIvotedBrexit
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Re: Thompson letter

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Nickvilla20
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by Nickvilla20 »

pieoftheday wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:35
norris9 wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 19:30
Meanwhile BT employees getting a 16% pay rise.


Working for Royal Mail isn't going to be worth it on those terms, Thompson. Other businesses are coming to their senses and paying 10%+ pay rises.

Good luck employing tens of thousands of people on lower wages with terrible terms and conditions.
Unfortunately I dont think getting people to work for crap pay and conditions will be a problem,
They will have problems. Royal Mail could get staff as it paid enough to entice people to work for them.

If they go ahead with the new contracts then they will really struggle to recruit. You will get paid more for delivering groceries for Tesco and that is much easier than walking the streets for five hours.

Royal Mail only take on people part time to so that’s another disadvantage for them as well as not being appealing to working parents who want to work in school hours.
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by ninja22 »

They’re not false allegations: cwu claims that we are pursuing compulsory redundancies untrue. No compulsory redundancies till 31st march.
Which is still compulsory redundancies.
arsenalbob
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by arsenalbob »

So why don’t the CWU put the best and final offer to the membership? Surely it’s for us to reject and not for them to reject on our behalf? Whichever way the majority vote the minority will have to accept. That’s how ballots work.
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by chickenwittle »

arsenalbob wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 20:28
So why don’t the CWU put the best and final offer to the membership? Surely it’s for us to reject and not for them to reject on our behalf? Whichever way the majority vote the minority will have to accept. That’s how ballots work.
Because if it’s rejected which it would be , then what ? That’s their full and final offer right ?
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Re: Thompson letter

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arsenalbob wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 20:28
So why don’t the CWU put the best and final offer to the membership? Surely it’s for us to reject and not for them to reject on our behalf? Whichever way the majority vote the minority will have to accept. That’s how ballots work.

did you not read this in the full and final agreement

"Offer is conditional on the CWU withdrawing all Industrial Action and balloting our members on the offer, which if rejected would not re-ballot their members for Industrial Action on Pay or Change matters, plus no further ballots for Industrial Action linked to proposed headcount reductions or the VR terms."

no one in their right mind would agree to that
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by POSTMAN »

Something is not right here, is Thompson completely lying, or have I got this wrong.
He states that the CWU's counter-proposal was sent on the 27th Nov and it's only 1 page long, but what I can see is this, which is the 21st...
LTB 458/22 - ROYAL MAIL GROUP: CWU PROPOSAL TO RMG TO RESOLVE THE PAY & CHANGE DISPUTES
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
richj2009
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Re: Thompson letter

Post by richj2009 »

SogladIvotedBrexit wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 20:25
richj2009 wrote:
28 Nov 2022, 20:15
One thing we all have to admit. This Thompson geezer is one brave dude. I would be petrified if a large number of people had such strong negative feelings towards me. He must have security around him most of the time I would have thought. Sorry thinking out loud 🤔
Something really smelly on the end of ones shoe is a more appropriate term.
Lol