See if your office is working Sunday and how many people needed.

[Cucumber]

At a rough guess, when were Sundays put into contracts? Last 18 months?

[General Mannerheim]

I love how these muppets keep going on about the local rep and the managers will sort out all these duty patterns/family friendly/religious needs in a resource meeting , it pisses me off already just trying to get my head round all the s**t like model week, shift patterns, lapsing plan, leave, people on sick etc and all the usual other guff.

[crazyshrew]

At a rough guess, when were Sundays put into contracts? Last 18 months?

I started in 2011
This is in my contract from when I went from temporary to permanent.
Contract version 5.0 01/08/2012
Safe to say at least anyone who started 2012 onwards is liable to be thoroughly shat upon

9.2 Royal Mail has the responsibility of providing a public service. This puts a special obligation on all employees to play their part in maintaining the kind of service that the public has a right to expect. The nature of the service makes a measure of overtime working necessary. For this reason, it is a condition of your employment that you are liable to work overtime and to attend at varying times on any day (including weekends. Bank and Public Holidays) as the needs of the service demand. Overtime pay will be assessed in accordance

[SpacePhoenix]

At a rough guess, when were Sundays put into contracts? Last 18 months?

I started in 2011
This is in my contract from when I went from temporary to permanent.
Contract version 5.0 01/08/2012
Safe to say at least anyone who started 2012 onwards is liable to be thoroughly shat upon

9.2 Royal Mail has the responsibility of providing a public service. This puts a special obligation on all employees to play their part in maintaining the kind of service that the public has a right to expect. The nature of the service makes a measure of overtime working necessary. For this reason, it is a condition of your employment that you are liable to work overtime and to attend at varying times on any day (including weekends. Bank and Public Holidays) as the needs of the service demand. Overtime pay will be assessed in accordance

I started in the very early 2000s, I've got a feeling that something very similar might be written in my contract so possibly all contracts since around about 2000 might well have the same

[TopperGas]

At a rough guess, when were Sundays put into contracts? Last 18 months?

I started in 2011
This is in my contract from when I went from temporary to permanent.
Contract version 5.0 01/08/2012
Safe to say at least anyone who started 2012 onwards is liable to be thoroughly shat upon

9.2 Royal Mail has the responsibility of providing a public service. This puts a special obligation on all employees to play their part in maintaining the kind of service that the public has a right to expect. The nature of the service makes a measure of overtime working necessary. For this reason, it is a condition of your employment that you are liable to work overtime and to attend at varying times on any day (including weekends. Bank and Public Holidays) as the needs of the service demand. Overtime pay will be assessed in accordance

I understood Simon wants Sunday working as part of your shift pattern not overtime, but as other have said I can see this will be the first change to be agreed, probably with the excuse it will be only 1 in 4 Sundays/volunteers will cover most shifts etc. Then in a year or two most of us will be forced to work every other Sunday and also probably asked to work o/t on the day off we're given in lieu!

[DGH]

Unsurprisingly, the current figures for my office are wrong. Discounting casuals, we currently need 6x the number of staff they claim we do at the moment to staff a Sunday.

[TopperGas]

Unsurprisingly, the current figures for my office are wrong. Discounting casuals, we currently need 6x the number of staff they claim we do at the moment to staff a Sunday.

I thought the figure for our Parcel Hub seemed low, as they certainly seemed more staff working than suggested on spreadsheet when I worked a couple of Sundays.

[korky]

kind of a double edged sword re Sundays, I'm old skool, i like a few beers sat & a sun roast then lay on couch farting whilst a box set on,
but just delivering parcels once or twice a month would be like an extra day off from the toil of walking 12+miles
as now we don't have the cover to change from 1in6 to 2in7, the uso would fail massively unless they make duties even bigger or more lapsing plans,
if they said to me do 2 sundays p/m in exchange for 2 sat/sun/mon off p/m i'd probably snap their hand off

[aiden01]

kind of a double edged sword re Sundays, I'm old skool, i like a few beers sat & a sun roast then lay on couch farting whilst a box set on,
but just delivering parcels once or twice a month would be like an extra day off from the toil of walking 12+miles
as now we don't have the cover to change from 1in6 to 2in7, the uso would fail massively unless they make duties even bigger or more lapsing plans,
if they said to me do 2 sundays p/m in exchange for 2 sat/sun/mon off p/m i'd probably snap their hand off

Would you work sun for ordinary rate.????

[Route1]

The number of people match those that were in about 6 weeks ago when I done sunday.

In my experience there are way too many people for the work that currently comes in. We've regularly sent surplus agency to help other hubs.

Agency staff & those on the newer contracts get paid more per hour than me & the other older contract volunteers . We easily do more parcels than them but its the way it is.

Simon wants to get rid of the sunday premium? we get for working sundays, he'll lose the current crop of volunteers. Agency / new contract staff get nearly £6 extra per hour (£4 more per hour than us).

I tried to get my dom to give me every fri & sat off so I work Sun - Thu with the Sunday Allowance. Got an instant no as we dont have enough posties to deliver the mail during the week.

[POSTPERSON50]

I love how these muppets keep going on about the local rep and the managers will sort out all these duty patterns/family friendly/religious needs in a resource meeting , it pisses me off already just trying to get my head round all the s**t like model week, shift patterns, lapsing plan, leave, people on sick etc and all the usual other guff.

Easiest job ever made confusing by knobs who talk with their hands about bs year on year figures

[POSTPERSON50]

Staff have been delivering bags of letters on Sundays in my office for well over a year. Plenty of other offices I expect

[ted_e_bear]

kind of a double edged sword re Sundays, I'm old skool, i like a few beers sat & a sun roast then lay on couch farting whilst a box set on,
but just delivering parcels once or twice a month would be like an extra day off from the toil of walking 12+miles
as now we don't have the cover to change from 1in6 to 2in7, the uso would fail massively unless they make duties even bigger or more lapsing plans,
if they said to me do 2 sundays p/m in exchange for 2 sat/sun/mon off p/m i'd probably snap their hand off

Would you work sun for ordinary rate.????

It just doesn't sit right does it but I suspect the lure for a few would be an easier day than doing a regular delivery.

[Zicomurphy]

kind of a double edged sword re Sundays, I'm old skool, i like a few beers sat & a sun roast then lay on couch farting whilst a box set on,
but just delivering parcels once or twice a month would be like an extra day off from the toil of walking 12+miles
as now we don't have the cover to change from 1in6 to 2in7, the uso would fail massively unless they make duties even bigger or more lapsing plans,
if they said to me do 2 sundays p/m in exchange for 2 sat/sun/mon off p/m i'd probably snap their hand off

Would you work sun for ordinary rate.????

It just doesn't sit right does it but I suspect the lure for a few would be an easier day than doing a regular delivery.

There are several things they could do to make Sunday working more appealing. Extra pay is the most obvious but Mark Baluch mentioned in one interview another option could be counting time worked on a Sunday as time and a half but with no extra pay. So, if you are full time, a 8 hour Sunday shift would count as 12 hours of your weekly 37 hours.

[aiden01]

kind of a double edged sword re Sundays, I'm old skool, i like a few beers sat & a sun roast then lay on couch farting whilst a box set on,
but just delivering parcels once or twice a month would be like an extra day off from the toil of walking 12+miles
as now we don't have the cover to change from 1in6 to 2in7, the uso would fail massively unless they make duties even bigger or more lapsing plans,
if they said to me do 2 sundays p/m in exchange for 2 sat/sun/mon off p/m i'd probably snap their hand off

Would you work sun for ordinary rate.????

It just doesn't sit right does it but I suspect the lure for a few would be an easier day than doing a regular delivery.

There are several things they could do to make Sunday working more appealing. Extra pay is the most obvious but Mark Baluch mentioned in one interview another option could be counting time worked on a Sunday as time and a half but with no extra pay. So, if you are full time, a 8 hour Sunday shift would count as 12 hours of your weekly 37 hours.

Its not even time an a quarter now so can't see them upping it to time an a half.