season hours

[LouBarlow]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

How is 24 minutes before your duty helping these new dpr routes?

[Rommagic]

Some offices will spilt the 24 mins a day extending the finish time when no dpr cover they will say mail down you have extra time for the large parcels.

[LouBarlow]

Some offices will spilt the 24 mins a day extending the finish time when no dpr cover they will say mail down you have extra time for the large parcels.

They can’t do that for at least the first year of the agreement.

[markyRFC]

They can’t do that for at least the first year of the agreement.

They can, they have, they will continue to do as they want. Sadly

[Woody Guthrie]

They can’t do that for at least the first year of the agreement.

They can, they have, they will continue to do as they want. Sadly

No they can't.
No they haven't.
Stop making stuff up.

[Clappedoutpostie]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

[citypostie]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we sent getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail

[citypostie]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we aren't getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail,unless Martin can tell me out breaks stay the same all year to account for this?

[wallan]

How do these New 40 Hr Contracts fit in with Seasonal Hours

[TopperGas]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we aren't getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail,unless Martin can tell me out breaks stay the same all year to account for this?

If an OPG is getting a 10 minutes shorter break how are RM gaining anything unless the OPG is working though their breaks?

[Subman]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we aren't getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail,unless Martin can tell me out breaks stay the same all year to account for this?

If an OPG is getting a 10 minutes shorter break how are RM gaining anything unless the OPG is working though their breaks?

Royal Mail gains:
EXAMPLE A full timer/5 day week/ no current longs and shorts will see there total breaks over the year reduced by approximately 50 minutes a week over the summer 15 week period, 750 minutes or 12.5 hours.

If I am still contracted and paid for the the same TOTAL number of hours a year and my TOTAL paid meal reliefs over a year has been reduced by approximately 12.5 hours, then of course Royal Mail gains.

[Bob Cooney]

They can’t do that for at least the first year of the agreement.

They can, they have, they will continue to do as they want. Sadly

No they can't.
No they haven't.
Stop making stuff up.

This machine doesn't fight fascists

All reps now being asked to police the deal because they can't and they haven't.

[TopperGas]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we aren't getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail,unless Martin can tell me out breaks stay the same all year to account for this?

If an OPG is getting a 10 minutes shorter break how are RM gaining anything unless the OPG is working though their breaks?

Royal Mail gains:
EXAMPLE A full timer/5 day week/ no current longs and shorts will see there total breaks over the year reduced by approximately 50 minutes a week over the summer 15 week period, 750 minutes or 12.5 hours.

If I am still contracted and paid for the the same TOTAL number of hours a year and my TOTAL paid meal reliefs over a year has been reduced by approximately 12.5 hours, then of course Royal Mail gains.

I still can't see where RM are gaining as surely you'll be working 12.5 hours less but still getting the same pay, as I understood our pay was remaining constant throughout the year, or you suggesting RM are now going to reduce our pay during the same months?

[Subman]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we aren't getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail,unless Martin can tell me out breaks stay the same all year to account for this?

If an OPG is getting a 10 minutes shorter break how are RM gaining anything unless the OPG is working though their breaks?

Royal Mail gains:
EXAMPLE A full timer/5 day week/ no current longs and shorts will see there total breaks over the year reduced by approximately 50 minutes a week over the summer 15 week period, 750 minutes or 12.5 hours.

If I am still contracted and paid for the the same TOTAL number of hours a year and my TOTAL paid meal reliefs over a year has been reduced by approximately 12.5 hours, then of course Royal Mail gains.

I still can't see where RM are gaining as surely you'll be working 12.5 hours less but still getting the same pay, as I understood our pay was remaining constant throughout the year, or you suggesting RM are now going to reduce our pay during the same months?

Royal Mail are gaining because over a year instead of paying employees 12.5 hours(almost 2 working days) of paid meal reliefs, employees will be working these hours.

To put it another way.It is a bit like a magicians trick or slight of hand.

Royal Mail is moving 24 minutes from the summer, these 24 minutes consist of 10 minutes paid meal relief and 14 minutes actual working time.

The 24 minutes in the high season will be All working time.

[citypostie]

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.

The whole reason they have done it is to avoid paying out so much OT, they might save afew hours early morning docket but I can’t really see where else they are saving anything. The reality is it will probably be mismanaged and it will cost them more.

Well in the summer theyve shortened our days by 24 minutes paying us the time back BUT they've got 20 minutes a week more working time off all the full timers because our meal reliefs drop to 30 mins on a Mon and sat because of the shorter days so we aren't getting all the time back we will have given them in the longer months. I'm sure it's the same in lots of offices with long and short days so probably a nice little bit of free work gained by royal mail,unless Martin can tell me out breaks stay the same all year to account for this?

If an OPG is getting a 10 minutes shorter break how are RM gaining anything unless the OPG is working though their breaks?

Royal Mail gains:
EXAMPLE A full timer/5 day week/ no current longs and shorts will see there total breaks over the year reduced by approximately 50 minutes a week over the summer 15 week period, 750 minutes or 12.5 hours.

If I am still contracted and paid for the the same TOTAL number of hours a year and my TOTAL paid meal reliefs over a year has been reduced by approximately 12.5 hours, then of course Royal Mail gains.

I still can't see where RM are gaining as surely you'll be working 12.5 hours less but still getting the same pay, as I understood our pay was remaining constant throughout the year, or you suggesting RM are now going to reduce our pay during the same months?

Royal Mail are gaining because over a year instead of paying employees 12.5 hours(almost 2 working days) of paid meal reliefs, employees will be working these hours.

To put it another way.It is a bit like a magicians trick or slight of hand.

Royal Mail is moving 24 minutes from the summer, these 24 minutes consist of 10 minutes paid meal relief and 14 minutes actual working time.

The 24 minutes in the high season will be All working time.

Exactly! Don't see how people don't get this? I asked my union rep about it and he agreed with me but that's as far as it went