Next weeks bulk posting:EU election leaflet

[daveyeff]

you sound like our rep...''it is what it is''.....''that's the nature of the beast'' ,,,,,doh

[daveyeff]

Because its been posted outside of the "Election/Referendum" embargo so is classed as a government leaflet, rather than a political one. Its also the reason why they have to be delivered in 3 days as I believe that there is embargo for such stuff so many weeks before any election.

laymans terms please teebs. explain it like I am 6

They have to be delivered before Thursday or its illegal.

Because its outside the period for political leaflets it can't be treated as one. Therefore it becomes D2D and we don't get paid.

so then,.....it isn't election material.

[daveyeff]

and why is it illegal if its delivered on Thursday?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Correct.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

and why is it illegal if its delivered on Thursday?

Becuase of the local council and other elections being held on 5th May. Apparently the Government is not allowed to send stuff out a certain amount of days before elections unless they are "Election Material".

It looks like the rest of the UK will get theirs after 5th May.

[daveyeff]

zx was saying that according to the LTB that it was election material.

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

If only it was agreed to delivery it all last week!

[eastie]

Was told by DOM that if anyone on my round have opted out of D2D's we don't deliver the Referendum leaflet to them

[toomuchcoke]

The EU is a dictatorship. Nothing more nothing less.Certain countries are still intent on world domination. They dont want us. They want our money.
Countries are free loading on Us and You want to stay in it?? Vote OUT

So are the dictators the MEPs, elected by the electorate in the various countries in the EU?
Or are the dictators the Commissions, appointed by the governments of the various countries in the EU who where in turn elected by their electorates?
Or are the dictators the Council of Europe, which consists of ministers from the governments of the various countries of the EU. You know, the ones elected by the electorates of their countries?

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Conscience Clause Regarding Election Material.

I know I am being picky now but that is the conscience clause regarding election material.
I was hoping you were going to post the conscience clause regarding D2D.

I don't think you can take the one regarding election material and apply it to a D2D about a referendum.

going by your posts in that other thread about this d2d seems like you are just trying to be difficult.

It doesn't matter what form the communication comes by, leaflet, d2d first class etc if it's election material the conscience clause applies

now if you are saying that the referendum is not an "election" and as such the clause doesn't apply because of that reason, then ltb 143/11 clearly classes a referendum as an election

if this IS classed as election.....it begs the question... why aren't we being paid extra then, like we normally are?

We are not normally paid extra for this type of thing, just like we are not paid extra when the political parties send out letters by first or second class, we are only paid extra for stuff paid for delivery by the electoral commission

[crazyshrew]

Was told by DOM that if anyone on my round have opted out of D2D's we don't deliver the Referendum leaflet to them

I asked my DOM on Monday morning what the deal with those with an opt out was (as it is technically a D2D). I was told to do the opposite, Deliver them to everyone.

You'd have thought the union and senior RM bods would have had that little scenario would have been settled before D-Day!

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Was told by DOM that if anyone on my round have opted out of D2D's we don't deliver the Referendum leaflet to them

I asked my DOM on Monday morning what the deal with those with an opt out was (as it is technically a D2D). I was told to do the opposite, Deliver them to everyone.

You'd have thought the union and senior RM bods would have had that little scenario would have been settled before D-Day!

The answer is they shouldn't have been delivered. https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... aterial%3F" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is not possible for Royal Mail to separate material you don’t want from those you do want
For example: advertising offers or leaflets from material from Central and Local Government and other public bodies.

[SpacePhoenix]

Was told by DOM that if anyone on my round have opted out of D2D's we don't deliver the Referendum leaflet to them

I asked my DOM on Monday morning what the deal with those with an opt out was (as it is technically a D2D). I was told to do the opposite, Deliver them to everyone.

You'd have thought the union and senior RM bods would have had that little scenario would have been settled before D-Day!

The answer is they shouldn't have been delivered. https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... aterial%3F" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is not possible for Royal Mail to separate material you don’t want from those you do want
For example: advertising offers or leaflets from material from Central and Local Government and other public bodies.

Just a few lines down it says:

Election material is not delivered by the Door to Door service and is therefore not affected by this opt out.

It's been classed as election material otherwise the rules about election stuff not being allowed within a certain number of days of an election wouldn't apply to it

[daveyeff]

More propaganda

It's not propaganda but facts maybe you and the other people on here that want to leave the eu could inform us how they see the UK once we leave? I very much look forward to your contributions

David Camerons words shortly after winning the election..... Britain will be Great if it stays in Europe, Britain will be Great if we leave Europe. his words, good enough for me....I am out.

[postslippete]

Should English be the only official language of the EU?


The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k". This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.
Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling.

Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away.

By the 4th yer peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensi bl riten styl.

Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi TU understand ech oza. Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas.