Working 7 days a week

[marie23]

Is it ok to work 7 days a week

[gfte]

In what respect? Legally, contractually, being dictated to do so or choosing to, with over time or as a working pattern?

I've certainly worked previous jobs that stuck to the 1 day off in 7, or 2 consecutive in 14 days so working 12 days on. Rota'd so ignoring overtime on days off.

Weekly rest
Workers have the right to either:

an uninterrupted 24 hours without any work each week
an uninterrupted 48 hours without any work each fortnight

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

[2chorizon]

Is it ok to work 7 days a week

Not at RM or any other UK employer.
It is illegal end of.

The employee has a duty as well as the employer to ensure this legal limit is not exceeded.

You will be given a 7 day overtime ban at RM for each breach and continued breaches will be treated seriously.

CWU aggreement here v

http://www.cwuni.org.uk/id35.html

[Zicomurphy]

In what respect? Legally, contractually, being dictated to do so or choosing to, with over time or as a working pattern?

I've certainly worked previous jobs that stuck to the 1 day off in 7, or 2 consecutive in 14 days so working 12 days on. Rota'd so ignoring overtime on days off.

Weekly rest
Workers have the right to either:

an uninterrupted 24 hours without any work each week
an uninterrupted 48 hours without any work each fortnight

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

But having the right to isn’t the same thing as it being compulsory. My wife works 32 hours a week (Not for Royal Mail) but spread over 6 days. Occasionally she will also work the 7th day to cover for sickness or annual leave. AFAIK there is nothing legally to prevent her doing that.

[2chorizon]

In what respect? Legally, contractually, being dictated to do so or choosing to, with over time or as a working pattern?

I've certainly worked previous jobs that stuck to the 1 day off in 7, or 2 consecutive in 14 days so working 12 days on. Rota'd so ignoring overtime on days off.

Weekly rest
Workers have the right to either:

an uninterrupted 24 hours without any work each week
an uninterrupted 48 hours without any work each fortnight

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

But haven’t the right to isn’t the same thing as it being compulsory. My wife works 32 hours a week (Not for Royal Mail) but spread over 6 days. Occasionally she will also work the 7th day to cover for sickness or annual leave. AFAIK there is nothing legally to prevent her doing that.

"Occasionally" being the operative word.
"Continiously" would be illegal

N.b there are exceptions for certain occupations like emergency services, prisons, offshore workers, transport drivers etc but these will all have their own specific control measures.

Postal service does also have special status but only during the annual 4 week xmas pressure period.

[2chorizon]

In what respect? Legally, contractually, being dictated to do so or choosing to, with over time or as a working pattern?

I've certainly worked previous jobs that stuck to the 1 day off in 7, or 2 consecutive in 14 days so working 12 days on. Rota'd so ignoring overtime on days off.

Weekly rest
Workers have the right to either:

an uninterrupted 24 hours without any work each week
an uninterrupted 48 hours without any work each fortnight

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

But haven’t the right to isn’t the same thing as it being compulsory. My wife works 32 hours a week (Not for Royal Mail) but spread over 6 days. Occasionally she will also work the 7th day to cover for sickness or annual leave. AFAIK there is nothing legally to prevent her doing that.

If she works 7 days this week then she will only be allowed to work 5 days the following week (12 days total continious) anything else is illegal.

[yellowbelly]

In what respect? Legally, contractually, being dictated to do so or choosing to, with over time or as a working pattern?

I've certainly worked previous jobs that stuck to the 1 day off in 7, or 2 consecutive in 14 days so working 12 days on. Rota'd so ignoring overtime on days off.

Weekly rest
Workers have the right to either:

an uninterrupted 24 hours without any work each week
an uninterrupted 48 hours without any work each fortnight

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

But haven’t the right to isn’t the same thing as it being compulsory. My wife works 32 hours a week (Not for Royal Mail) but spread over 6 days. Occasionally she will also work the 7th day to cover for sickness or annual leave. AFAIK there is nothing legally to prevent her doing that.

If she works 7 days, the following week she will only be allowed to work 5 days (12 days total continious) anything else is illegal.
Pass me the name of the employer and i will get something done about it.

I know somebody in a similar situation and am interested in which specific law you say is being broken (I assume in the WTR'S https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1998/1833/contents) is being broken, however possibly similar to our colleague above:

1. Perhaps she's happy to do it and has agreed with employer to do it.
2. She appears to be getting the daily rest break between work.
3. The max 48hr over a reference period doesn't appear to be being contravened.
4. It's not a continuous thing. Once every couple of months maybe.

[aiden01]

Is it ok to work 7 days a week

Not at RM or any other UK employer.
It is illegal end of.

The employee has a duty as well as the employer to ensure this legal limit is not exceeded.

You will be given a 7 day overtime ban at RM for each breach and continued breaches will be treated seriously.

CWU aggreement here v

http://www.cwuni.org.uk/id35.html

Nonsense loads in mc i work in do it all year round. never heard of anybody getting an ot ban because of it. not saying it is right to do it btw.

[rainbowwarrior72]

The EU Working Time directive comes into it still Brexit or no Brexit Even with opt outs you are only allowed to work 6days a week so there will have to be amendments to rest days and work patterns for sure like 4day weeks and even with rotating rest days you will get 5day weekends every 3rd week 5 day weeks may have to have 2 rest days together if sundays included But it def has to be agreed properly with the CWU and the staff

[2chorizon]

Is it ok to work 7 days a week

Not at RM or any other UK employer.
It is illegal end of.

The employee has a duty as well as the employer to ensure this legal limit is not exceeded.

You will be given a 7 day overtime ban at RM for each breach and continued breaches will be treated seriously.

CWU aggreement here v

http://www.cwuni.org.uk/id35.html

Nonsense loads in mc i work in do it all year round. never heard of anybody getting an ot ban because of it. not saying it is right to do it btw.

You can work 6 days a week maximum.
Someone in my MC was recently given a 2 week O/T ban (as per the CWU aggreement) for working 21 days straight without any rest days.

From the agreement:

7. Procedure where individuals work in excess of the agreed limits
This agreement places an obligation on both individuals, their line managers and the Union to take all reasonable steps to ensure that the limits are adhered to. In particular the daily rest should not be less than 9 hours. However, there will be occasions when the limits are broken and the action below will need to be taken. When this happens joint local discussions will take place to identify the reasons and prevent a recurrence.

7.1 If the Rest break (Daily/Weekly) provisions in this agreement are broken, this should only occur when an individual has worked ad hoc overtime (since duties and SAs must always be allocated to take account of the limits). The element of the rest that was missed should normally be rescheduled and taken within 48 hours. This will be taken as additional rest added to an existing daily or weekly rest break in no more than 2 separate blocks. However, where this conflicts with an individuals duty or scheduled attendance commitments local joint discussions will take place to agree the period.

7.2 If an individual exceeds the gross hour restrictions set out in Para 5, their personal limit will be reduced for the following week. For example if the limit is 70 hours and they work 75, then the following week they will only be permitted to work 65 hours. Employees who exceed the limit more than once in any calendar month will not be permitted to work overtime for a period of a week (i.e. just their conditioned hours plus any Scheduled Attendance that they are personally committed to perform).

7.3 The net hour average limits (excluding meal breaks) will be operated over the agreed reference periods. Working time will be monitored and information on the current average will be available on request. However, employees must ensure before they volunteer for any overtime that they will be able to continue to meet their obligations to work their conditioned hours and any Scheduled Attendance. If an individual has exceeded the limit over the reference period, their personal limit will be reduced by a corresponding amount in the following reference period.

7.4 The authorisation/allocation of extra duty/overtime must also ensure employees keep within the agreed limits and regular breaches will be viewed seriously.

Get your MC sorted out today! Keep it Legal

[daveyeff]

i can tell you now that rule is broken every week at our office. they've got blokes in working their day off, both days off (depending on the 9 day fortnight rota) and going to another office EVERY Sunday to do packets for 6 hours. week in week out. management know all about it.

[clashcityrocker]

i can tell you now that rule is broken every week at our office. they've got blokes in working their day off, both days off (depending on the 9 day fortnight rota) and going to another office EVERY Sunday to do packets for 6 hours. week in week out. management know all about it.

I think just as long as they are working their annual leave as well it is acceptable.

[2chorizon]

i can tell you now that rule is broken every week at our office. they've got blokes in working their day off, both days off (depending on the 9 day fortnight rota) and going to another office EVERY Sunday to do packets for 6 hours. week in week out. management know all about it.

PM me the name of your office and i will get that stopped , or you can do it if you can provide a more detailed local report?
I have just finished dealing with H&S at Sheffield HQ and everyone who was doing it in my MC has been stopped.

6 days is the maximum you are allowed to work (when someone accidently or is required to work 7 days they are cut back to only 5 days in the following week in order to comply with the law) Those who breach more then once in a calendar month are given a 7 day ovetime ban.

[bostonpilgrim]

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This is not only Royal Mail policy but it is based on Employment Law. Anyone working outside these parameters are breaking the Law. Can be prosecuted by the HSE, also are uninsured to be in work, drive vans etc etc.