Operational needs

[postieblueshirt]

Just wondering how many times can this be used to move me from my signed duty.ive been moved 3 times this week to do rural and told I'm moved all of next week also.any advice would be handy.

[wrongturn]

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[postieblueshirt]

Yeah I think it's a huge grey area with no real answer...

[ted_e_bear]

Might be a really silly suggestion but perhaps if they trained someone else up on the rural that might be a starting point

[postieblueshirt]

Might be a really silly suggestion but perhaps if they trained someone else up on the rural that might be a starting point

yeah ive been trying to get that point across for 4 years lol 4 years since i came off it and still one of only ones that knows it.

[SpacePhoenix]

Might be a really silly suggestion but perhaps if they trained someone else up on the rural that might be a starting point

If the DO has a staff shortage, maybe they can't release anyone to learn the route

[yellowbelly]

So it's been vacant for 4 years?
Do they use moving you to facilitate lapsing?

[Woody Guthrie]

Might be a really silly suggestion but perhaps if they trained someone else up on the rural that might be a starting point

If the DO has a staff shortage, maybe they can't release anyone to learn the route

In 4 years?

It takes 2-3 days to learn the basics of a rural, you won't know it all by then but enough to make a decent fist of it.
It's not a 6 months course with a test at the end.

[ted_e_bear]

Might be a really silly suggestion but perhaps if they trained someone else up on the rural that might be a starting point

If the DO has a staff shortage, maybe they can't release anyone to learn the route

In 4 years?

It takes 2-3 days to learn the basics of a rural, you won't know it all by then but enough to make a decent fist of it.
It's not a 6 months course with a test at the end.

Exactly just get someone trained up how hard can it be

[tomtallis]

If its only you who gets the shitty end of the stick all the time then you should take it up with the union

[postieblueshirt]

There is a duty holder on this rural but I came off it at the last resign( 4yrs ago) and he picked it.but usually I have to do his day off or this time his holiday.its just laziness on managment not to train people.its that bad the rural don't even have a cover duty for there days off.

[Cucumber]

all u can do is push to make it fair that everyone gets moved off of their signed duties in rotation if needs be and not just u

Sounds ideal, but you'll soon discover that others will have made an even stronger push to NEVER be moved off any part of the indoor or outdoor parts of the job as 'that's their right'.

[denhamhoop]

Just wondering how many times can this be used to move me from my signed duty.ive been moved 3 times this week to do rural and told I'm moved all of next week also.any advice would be handy.

I work in a MC and 2 of my colleagues signed for Duties on Letters 12 years ago and due to these duties being kept for those who cannot stand up or move much at all neither of them have actually done their duty in that time. So operational needs can be used in perpetuity by the looks of it

[SpacePhoenix]

Just wondering how many times can this be used to move me from my signed duty.ive been moved 3 times this week to do rural and told I'm moved all of next week also.any advice would be handy.

I work in a MC and 2 of my colleagues signed for Duties on Letters 12 years ago and due to these duties being kept for those who cannot stand up or move much at all neither of them have actually done their duty in that time. So operational needs can be used in perpetuity by the looks of it

In a MC provided there's no H&S issues or training issues you can be moved to any section at any time for any length of time. Probably the most common example is all those on the flats and letters who aren't DDAs getting sent over to the packets and Tracked when the letters and flats run low on work

[Woody Guthrie]

It's not really the same in Delivery Offices and Mailcentres.
Obviously if you run out of work on your assigned task or there is a shortage elsewhere in a mailcentre you're going to be moved where the work is.
That's more live resourcing than operational needs.

In a DO you're not being moved off your assigned task because there's no work, you're being moved because they want someone else to do it and you to do something else. Since we're all on the same grade and pay that is something that has to be justifiable.

You should always question the genuine business requirement behind that, especially if the office has had ample opportunity to train someone else but has chosen not to.