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Interesting?

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
olilew
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Interesting?

Post by olilew »

"Just take it out and see how you go......."
Clappedoutpostie
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Post by Clappedoutpostie »

We already have 4 day weeks though.
olilew
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Post by olilew »

I think this advocates all full timers on 4 days.
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norris9
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Post by norris9 »

If it's a 4 day working week meaning that we skip 1 day completely and work 6+ hours less a week then yes. If it means we work 4 days but longer hours - no.
chickenwittle
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Post by chickenwittle »

If Saturday and Sunday are now included no thanks . 35 hours over mon to fri would be acceptable.
Schiff
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Post by Schiff »

From the link in the OP
The scheme is based on the idea that staff will get 100% of their salary for 80% of the time and maintain 100% productivity.
So if you usually walk at 4mph you will now have to increase that to 5mph. Drive faster between loops, get the same amount of indoor work completed in only 80% of the time.

Who really thinks that this would be a good idea for RM?
daveyeff
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Post by daveyeff »

a few years ago when we were 39 hrs a week, we had 9 day fortnights plus a ''3 over 4'' (as we used to call them) shift patterns. the 3 over 4 pattern was, you had 3 weeks on and the 4th week off. instead of working the 156 hours over 4 weeks, you did it over 3 weeks giving you a 52 hour week, but you had every 4th week off. it was very very popular at ours. some of the lads had their annual leave worked around it so they were 3 weeks off or a fortnight off every couple of months. RM put paid to that though cos it didn't suit them.
jessicarabbit
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Post by jessicarabbit »

We've still got em. Every manager that has come thru 'doesnt like them' although we have less now we still have 3 sets of them and the associated cover jobs. Credit to the CWU for helping us keep them but oddly lots of people in the office don't like them can't work out why. I feel like I'm barely at work and the next week off is always just around the corner no matter how bad things get in the office.
HTPostman
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Post by HTPostman »

4 day week here, I wouldn’t change it for the world although I ‘only’ get 4 days pay, so it’s not quite the 5 days work squeezed into 4 days with no reduction in pay that those businesses are doing.

I get the 2 busiest days of the week off, doesn’t matter how bad my day is going I know either today or tomorrow is my last day before I have a day or 2 days off.

They are very unpopular with staff (and management), think we still have 75% of these contracts still available but I guess it’s more to do with the money side which I can appreciate and respect.
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yubin282
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Post by yubin282 »

Schiff wrote:
08 Apr 2022, 16:48
From the link in the OP
The scheme is based on the idea that staff will get 100% of their salary for 80% of the time and maintain 100% productivity.
So if you usually walk at 4mph you will now have to increase that to 5mph. Drive faster between loops, get the same amount of indoor work completed in only 80% of the time.

Who really thinks that this would be a good idea for RM?
Aren't they trying that now
Wolf91
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Re: Interesting?

Post by Wolf91 »

daveyeff wrote:
08 Apr 2022, 18:07
a few years ago when we were 39 hrs a week, we had 9 day fortnights plus a ''3 over 4'' (as we used to call them) shift patterns. the 3 over 4 pattern was, you had 3 weeks on and the 4th week off. instead of working the 156 hours over 4 weeks, you did it over 3 weeks giving you a 52 hour week, but you had every 4th week off. it was very very popular at ours. some of the lads had their annual leave worked around it so they were 3 weeks off or a fortnight off every couple of months. RM put paid to that though cos it didn't suit them.
Not too dissimilar to Wallingtons, just a different system . Wellington you work the Saturday making it a 6-day week, and bank the day over those 5 weeks to pay for the 6th.
We still on those in our offices. 5 weeks on 6th off.
Work your annual leave around it, looking at 15 weeks off a year.
Very popular in our place too.
Obviously it has its down sides, like having a 6 day week, but who really wants some random day off in the week? I know we don’t.
Cucumber
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Post by Cucumber »

Wolf91 wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 18:24
daveyeff wrote:
08 Apr 2022, 18:07
a few years ago when we were 39 hrs a week, we had 9 day fortnights plus a ''3 over 4'' (as we used to call them) shift patterns. the 3 over 4 pattern was, you had 3 weeks on and the 4th week off. instead of working the 156 hours over 4 weeks, you did it over 3 weeks giving you a 52 hour week, but you had every 4th week off. it was very very popular at ours. some of the lads had their annual leave worked around it so they were 3 weeks off or a fortnight off every couple of months. RM put paid to that though cos it didn't suit them.
Not too dissimilar to Wallingtons, just a different system . Wellington you work the Saturday making it a 6-day week, and bank the day over those 5 weeks to pay for the 6th.
We still on those in our offices. 5 weeks on 6th off.
Work your annual leave around it, looking at 15 weeks off a year.
Very popular in our place too.
Obviously it has its down sides, like having a 6 day week, but who really wants some random day off in the week? I know we don’t.
Does the person that covers the 6th week get 1 week off in every 6 too?
A2B
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Post by A2B »

Cucumber wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 18:32
Wolf91 wrote:
11 Apr 2022, 18:24
daveyeff wrote:
08 Apr 2022, 18:07
a few years ago when we were 39 hrs a week, we had 9 day fortnights plus a ''3 over 4'' (as we used to call them) shift patterns. the 3 over 4 pattern was, you had 3 weeks on and the 4th week off. instead of working the 156 hours over 4 weeks, you did it over 3 weeks giving you a 52 hour week, but you had every 4th week off. it was very very popular at ours. some of the lads had their annual leave worked around it so they were 3 weeks off or a fortnight off every couple of months. RM put paid to that though cos it didn't suit them.
Not too dissimilar to Wallingtons, just a different system . Wellington you work the Saturday making it a 6-day week, and bank the day over those 5 weeks to pay for the 6th.
We still on those in our offices. 5 weeks on 6th off.
Work your annual leave around it, looking at 15 weeks off a year.
Very popular in our place too.
Obviously it has its down sides, like having a 6 day week, but who really wants some random day off in the week? I know we don’t.
Does the person that covers the 6th week get 1 week off in every 6 too?
Yes

It's run in a block of six, five walks with one rest week cover