Hi folks.
Can anyone advise me on this.
Our Manager puts the shift details up 2 or 3 weeks in advance so that those that aren't on fixed shift patterns know what they're working.
Written on each detail is "shifts are subject to change"
Can anyone tell me what notice a manager needs to give a postie to change their rest day?
We've had posties that have made plans for their weekend off, 3 weeks in advance, only to be told that they've now got to work on that Saturday because of a shift change.
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Management altering shifts
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POSTMAN
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Re: Management altering shifts
Hi mate.
3 weeks is a long time to give out duties to reserves, most are a week, some 2 weeks, perhaps even more are being told on Fridays.
Anything could happen in those time scales.
Saying that though, if say a week or so they were given out and things change then any OPG's who have made arrangements 'should' be able to depending on how hard you push it keep the day/days off.
Reserves need fairness as well.
We have had arguments at my place before because of this and kept the reserves day off who had made plans.
Managers get paid 'a lot' to manage, and having Bob or Sue off on whatever day and it's on a different duty can be managed without stitching the reserve up.
Are you having weekly resource meetings?
3 weeks is a long time to give out duties to reserves, most are a week, some 2 weeks, perhaps even more are being told on Fridays.
Anything could happen in those time scales.
Saying that though, if say a week or so they were given out and things change then any OPG's who have made arrangements 'should' be able to depending on how hard you push it keep the day/days off.
Reserves need fairness as well.
We have had arguments at my place before because of this and kept the reserves day off who had made plans.
Managers get paid 'a lot' to manage, and having Bob or Sue off on whatever day and it's on a different duty can be managed without stitching the reserve up.
Are you having weekly resource meetings?
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Hanzey
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Re: Management altering shifts
We've got 8 off sick plus annual leave out of a total of 20 staff.POSTMAN wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 14:43Hi mate.
3 weeks is a long time to give out duties to reserves, most are a week, some 2 weeks, perhaps even more are being told on Fridays.
Anything could happen in those time scales.
Saying that though, if say a week or so they were given out and things change then any OPG's who have made arrangements 'should' be able to depending on how hard you push it keep the day/days off.
Reserves need fairness as well.
We have had arguments at my place before because of this and kept the reserves day off who had made plans.
Managers get paid 'a lot' to manage, and having Bob or Sue off on whatever day and it's on a different duty can be managed without stitching the reserve up.
Are you having weekly resource meetings?
Weekly resource meetings are impossible at the moment.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Management altering shifts
20 staff and sick and AL, should even be easier to leave the reserves day off alone then, I mean obviously the place is fecked.Hanzey wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 16:31We've got 8 off sick plus annual leave out of a total of 20 staff.POSTMAN wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 14:43Hi mate.
3 weeks is a long time to give out duties to reserves, most are a week, some 2 weeks, perhaps even more are being told on Fridays.
Anything could happen in those time scales.
Saying that though, if say a week or so they were given out and things change then any OPG's who have made arrangements 'should' be able to depending on how hard you push it keep the day/days off.
Reserves need fairness as well.
We have had arguments at my place before because of this and kept the reserves day off who had made plans.
Managers get paid 'a lot' to manage, and having Bob or Sue off on whatever day and it's on a different duty can be managed without stitching the reserve up.
Are you having weekly resource meetings?
Weekly resource meetings are impossible at the moment.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Hanzey
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Re: Management altering shifts
On its arse matePOSTMAN wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 16:3820 staff and sick and AL, should even be easier to leave the reserves day off alone then, I mean obviously the place is fecked.Hanzey wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 16:31We've got 8 off sick plus annual leave out of a total of 20 staff.POSTMAN wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 14:43Hi mate.
3 weeks is a long time to give out duties to reserves, most are a week, some 2 weeks, perhaps even more are being told on Fridays.
Anything could happen in those time scales.
Saying that though, if say a week or so they were given out and things change then any OPG's who have made arrangements 'should' be able to depending on how hard you push it keep the day/days off.
Reserves need fairness as well.
We have had arguments at my place before because of this and kept the reserves day off who had made plans.
Managers get paid 'a lot' to manage, and having Bob or Sue off on whatever day and it's on a different duty can be managed without stitching the reserve up.
Are you having weekly resource meetings?
Weekly resource meetings are impossible at the moment.
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POSTMAN
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Re: Management altering shifts
LOLHanzey wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 17:05On its arse matePOSTMAN wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 16:3820 staff and sick and AL, should even be easier to leave the reserves day off alone then, I mean obviously the place is fecked.Hanzey wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 16:31We've got 8 off sick plus annual leave out of a total of 20 staff.POSTMAN wrote: ↑28 Mar 2022, 14:43Hi mate.
3 weeks is a long time to give out duties to reserves, most are a week, some 2 weeks, perhaps even more are being told on Fridays.
Anything could happen in those time scales.
Saying that though, if say a week or so they were given out and things change then any OPG's who have made arrangements 'should' be able to depending on how hard you push it keep the day/days off.
Reserves need fairness as well.
We have had arguments at my place before because of this and kept the reserves day off who had made plans.
Managers get paid 'a lot' to manage, and having Bob or Sue off on whatever day and it's on a different duty can be managed without stitching the reserve up.
Are you having weekly resource meetings?
Weekly resource meetings are impossible at the moment.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.