Hi folks.
When did streamlining/editing the mail become a thing?
On a busy day when I'm saying to my manager that I'm not going to complete in time and will be cutting off, the reply is usually streamline/edit your mail.
When did it become the posties responsibility to be "willfully delaying mail"?
Any thoughts?
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Streamlining/editing of mail
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rainbowwarrior72
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
We always did streaming especially when we did 2 deliveries pre 2004 Saturday when we did one delivery and it was a half day no mailsort on Saturdays and left over to Monday. Its not wilful delivery to leave mail behind if instructed by management you only get into trouble if you do it on your own authority and without consultation with a Lino/DOM
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POSTMAN
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
Show your rep this...
Royal Mail & CWU National Joint Statement Avoiding Delay (Commit to Deliver) and Reporting Standards
Royal Mail & CWU National Joint Statement Avoiding Delay (Commit to Deliver) and Reporting Standards
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Hanzey
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
But the manager is putting onus on the posties to decide what mail is important or not.rainbowwarrior72 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 11:56We always did streaming especially when we did 2 deliveries pre 2004 Saturday when we did one delivery and it was a half day no mailsort on Saturdays and left over to Monday. Its not wilful delivery to leave mail behind if instructed by management you only get into trouble if you do it on your own authority and without consultation with a Lino/DOM
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I'd say that's not for me to decide.
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Hanzey
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
POSTMAN wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 12:03Show your rep this...
Royal Mail & CWU National Joint Statement Avoiding Delay (Commit to Deliver) and Reporting Standards
Many thanks. Going off that thread, it seems to a nationwide ongoing issue.
I'll just keep doing what I do.
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Pharox
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
Postie: Boss, I will not be working over my time today, so I will need to leave in a loop or 2. What would you like me to leave?
Boss: OK, let me see....can you streamline the mail?
Postie: Ok, no problem, I will leave the last 2 loops
Boss: nope!
Postie: You asked me to streamline the mail, so I have streamlined it by leaving in 2 loops.
Boss: *perplexed look*
Boss: OK, let me see....can you streamline the mail?
Postie: Ok, no problem, I will leave the last 2 loops
Boss: nope!
Postie: You asked me to streamline the mail, so I have streamlined it by leaving in 2 loops.
Boss: *perplexed look*
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max49
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
I seem to remember, in the old days ,30 mailsort items a day, the rest put to one side. After a number of days the manager would walk round and negotiate overtime to clear the out standing mail? I also remember regular bag checks, to make sure you didn't bring anything other than docket lefts back. 
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Hanzey
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
Precisely this.Pharox wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 15:37Postie: Boss, I will not be working over my time today, so I will need to leave in a loop or 2. What would you like me to leave?
Boss: OK, let me see....can you streamline the mail?
Postie: Ok, no problem, I will leave the last 2 loops
Boss: nope!
Postie: You asked me to streamline the mail, so I have streamlined it by leaving in 2 loops.
Boss: *perplexed look*
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Mr Rush
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
Streaming, as directed by a manager when I started, was leaving any letters not 1st Class or DSA. Since Mailsort is practically extinct and there isn't much 2nd Class to make it worthwhile picking through, streaming hasn't been a viable solution to overrunning delivery for several years now.
The machine stops.
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
As has been pointed out many times before all mail that arrives at a DO is due for delivery that day whether it's 1st class, 2nd class or mailsort (is that still a thing?).
What your manager hopes to achieve is difficult to understand, a failure is a failure, all items that are not delivered no matter what stream they are have to be counted and reported as such. If your manager isn't reporting these failures that is gross misconduct.
What your manager hopes to achieve is difficult to understand, a failure is a failure, all items that are not delivered no matter what stream they are have to be counted and reported as such. If your manager isn't reporting these failures that is gross misconduct.
Only dead fish follow the current
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Streamlining/editing of mail
It'd need to be in writing from the manager otherwise if the s**t were to hit the fan, they'd just turn around and deny giving you the instruction to do sorainbowwarrior72 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2022, 11:56Its not wilful delivery to leave mail behind if instructed by management you only get into trouble if you do it on your own authority and without consultation with a Lino/DOM
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