ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
Need advice
-
Mdermot
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 07 Aug 2021, 23:54
- Gender: Male
Need advice
Signed off work by doctor for 3 months have contacted work every monday as told but manager does not pick up his phone and i leave a message now i received a letter saying my wages will be stopped because i have not contacted them weekly as agreed
The letter States they have been round my house and have tried ringing me but I have not left the house since being off sick no one has called no one has knocked on my door
Other members of staff have told me they did not have to do this when they were on long-term sick
Can anybody give me some advice before i go stir crazy
The letter States they have been round my house and have tried ringing me but I have not left the house since being off sick no one has called no one has knocked on my door
Other members of staff have told me they did not have to do this when they were on long-term sick
Can anybody give me some advice before i go stir crazy
-
TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 72658
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: Need advice
Contact your branch and get the area delivery rep involved. If you contacted them by mobile do not delete your history it will show your attempts to contact them. If you did it by landline hopefully your statements will list the calls, if not see if your provider can provide you with the information.Mdermot wrote: ↑08 Aug 2021, 00:03Signed off work by doctor for 3 months have contacted work every monday as told but manager does not pick up his phone and i leave a message now i received a letter saying my wages will be stopped because i have not contacted them weekly as agreed
The letter States they have been round my house and have tried ringing me but I have not left the house since being off sick no one has called no one has knocked on my door
Other members of staff have told me they did not have to do this when they were on long-term sick
Can anybody give me some advice before i go stir crazy
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
-
Dorset Plodder
- Posts: 4351
- Joined: 29 Apr 2009, 20:05
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
I would suggest for anyone wishing to "Leave Messages" for their DOM that they get hold of his e-mail address (they've all got one) and use that. You've then got a "Paper Trail" if there's any problems.
It's a lot more effective that leaving a message with the Bloke in the Locker Room .... or on his mobile (which is easily deleted in the event of an ass covering operation)!
It's a lot more effective that leaving a message with the Bloke in the Locker Room .... or on his mobile (which is easily deleted in the event of an ass covering operation)!
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
-
Mdermot
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 07 Aug 2021, 23:54
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Dear true blue
Thank you for your advice I will do that tomorrow I have kept the call history
The neurological condition I am presently off with has worsened because of a high up member of staff the same member of staff I have to ring tomorrow and I am literally sitting here shaking with the thought of having to do that
Thank you for your advice I will do that tomorrow I have kept the call history
The neurological condition I am presently off with has worsened because of a high up member of staff the same member of staff I have to ring tomorrow and I am literally sitting here shaking with the thought of having to do that
-
POSTMAN
- SITE ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 32754
- Joined: 07 Aug 2006, 03:19
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Don't over panic if you can.
Get your are rep to chew your managers arse off, if you have gone through the motions then it's bang out of order.
Later on if you are feeling well enough then you could put in a grievance about him.
Scumbags.
One day I will let people name names and locations etc, the w*****s we work with!
Get your are rep to chew your managers arse off, if you have gone through the motions then it's bang out of order.
Later on if you are feeling well enough then you could put in a grievance about him.
Scumbags.
One day I will let people name names and locations etc, the w*****s we work with!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
-
Mdermot
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 07 Aug 2021, 23:54
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Thank you for all of your help. Line manager refused to give me his and the managers email addresses in our phone call this morning
He said they had been round to my house many times and i was out. And that when you're on sick leave you should not be out and you should be in constant contact with work
That's fine if you've got somebody else to do the shopping for you but I live on my own with no one to help not even the neighbours
I have contacted my union rep about this
Boy oh boy you can't win damned if you do and damned if you don't
He said they had been round to my house many times and i was out. And that when you're on sick leave you should not be out and you should be in constant contact with work
That's fine if you've got somebody else to do the shopping for you but I live on my own with no one to help not even the neighbours
I have contacted my union rep about this
Boy oh boy you can't win damned if you do and damned if you don't
-
doob
- Posts: 61
- Joined: 20 Sep 2009, 21:52
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
U said in the op that u hadn’t been out at all since off sick and now you are saying u have been out. Just be truthful with them and say u need to go out for supplies, medication etc. It’s the lying that gets you caught out and not trusted
-
Mdermot
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 07 Aug 2021, 23:54
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Please doob
If you read it again you will see that it is the line manager saying that he came around to my house and I was out
I am not saying I was out
In fact I was in . Probably wearing my ear defenders because we are near an airport and with the planes flying over defenders reduce the noise of their engines but it also cuts out any other noise like doorbells hoovers washing machines television and the such like so if he did come round and he knocked I wouldn't have heard him
If you read it again you will see that it is the line manager saying that he came around to my house and I was out
I am not saying I was out
In fact I was in . Probably wearing my ear defenders because we are near an airport and with the planes flying over defenders reduce the noise of their engines but it also cuts out any other noise like doorbells hoovers washing machines television and the such like so if he did come round and he knocked I wouldn't have heard him
-
Mdermot
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 07 Aug 2021, 23:54
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Maybe I did not explain myself clearly
When the line manager said he came round to my house and I was not in
It meant that he knocked and could not get an answer so he presumed nobody was in in fact I was probably in with my ear defenders on because of the noise the planes make going over our house and that cuts out any other noise
But then it begs the question what right have management to come round checking up on you
when you're legitimately off sick
When the line manager said he came round to my house and I was not in
It meant that he knocked and could not get an answer so he presumed nobody was in in fact I was probably in with my ear defenders on because of the noise the planes make going over our house and that cuts out any other noise
But then it begs the question what right have management to come round checking up on you
when you're legitimately off sick
-
Haditup
- Posts: 195
- Joined: 27 Nov 2020, 07:08
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
It’s not a crime Not to answer the door.
You could be asleep in bed or unable to answer the door in time.
Your Manager as no justification to stop your pay if like you have said you have remained in contact.
You are not housebound when on sick leave.
Put in a Grievance with HR and contact you Union Rep.
This sort of Bullying Tactic is typical of Royal Mail
You could be asleep in bed or unable to answer the door in time.
Your Manager as no justification to stop your pay if like you have said you have remained in contact.
You are not housebound when on sick leave.
Put in a Grievance with HR and contact you Union Rep.
This sort of Bullying Tactic is typical of Royal Mail
-
General Mannerheim
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 2299
- Joined: 14 Dec 2007, 13:10
- Gender: Male
- Location: Stalag 17
Re: Need advice
You've already mentioned that you live on your own, a manager will say they are enttiled to come round yours especially if he thinks you've not maintained contact, as he has a duty of careBut then it begs the question what right have management to come round checking up on you
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
-
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1923
- Joined: 02 Apr 2010, 06:54
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Would it not be reasonable to expect a manager to put a note through the door while visiting, if unable to get an answer when they called round?
Can managers simply turn up unannounced at your doorstep?
Can managers simply turn up unannounced at your doorstep?
-
nutcracker
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 251
- Joined: 25 Mar 2020, 01:00
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
You don’t have to explain yourself to anyone…Mdermot wrote: ↑10 Aug 2021, 04:34Maybe I did not explain myself clearly
When the line manager said he came round to my house and I was not in
It meant that he knocked and could not get an answer so he presumed nobody was in in fact I was probably in with my ear defenders on because of the noise the planes make going over our house and that cuts out any other noise
But then it begs the question what right have management to come round checking up on you
when you're legitimately off sick
manager is bang out of order, get your rep involved and get him/her to agree a suitable contact method (email) and schedule of contact, if face to face is needed at 30 day intervals id insist a rep is present…personally I’d be letting the manager know via the rep that this extra STRESS is hampering and possibly going to extend my recovery period.
-
Dorset Plodder
- Posts: 4351
- Joined: 29 Apr 2009, 20:05
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
TBH I think he's trying it on, probably hasn't even attempted to visit you. WHY would an RM Manager "Refuse" to provide his e-mail address? This isn't MI5 FFS.
Manager's e-mail addresses are RM Property they're NOT private, they're designed for official communications, such as yours. I expect your DOM realises it'll leave a paper trail and he doesn't want one so he's Bullshitting you. As other members have mentioned get the Local CWU Office involved and let them deal with this idiot.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
-
sfxdby
- Posts: 81
- Joined: 28 Jan 2012, 21:48
- Gender: Male
Re: Need advice
Mdermot wrote: ↑10 Aug 2021, 04:34Maybe I did not explain myself clearly
When the line manager said he came round to my house and I was not in
It meant that he knocked and could not get an answer so he presumed nobody was in in fact I was probably in with my ear defenders on because of the noise the planes make going over our house and that cuts out any other noise
But then it begs the question what right have management to come round checking up on you
when you're legitimately off sick
I think I would be asking what date and time did you come round.
Ask him what colour your front door is. What is my mat like.
He very probably can't answer this because he didn't actually come round.
And if he does answer, you'll probably note the twit was at the wrong door.
They're absolutely clueless.