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25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

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Jiperjuper
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25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by Jiperjuper »

I’ve had it drilled into me that if I don’t want overtime, I must come in 4 1/2 hours before the full timers finishing time essentially.

This means start times of 10am some days.
As you can imagine, the office is empty and people will have been out delivering for at least an hour, some more.

By the time I deliver my first letter, it’s between 10:30-11.
Sometimes gives me about 3.15 hours to do what I can.

Every day I bring mail/non tracked back or leave it in, management don’t appreciate that, somehow think I can do the same amount of work as people that have been delivering their first letter 2 hours before I do.

Well, they’ve had enough it would seem so I’m being moved onto a duty where they can ‘keep an eye on me’
Today, I took the entire duty out minus large parcels, tracked packets and one loop.

Got back 45 minutes early, was told that in 2 weeks they expect me to be doing the full duty including the large, tracked and extra loop. Of course that’s going to be impossible unless I do overtime(no thanks)

I hope they come out to monitor me doing the job properly, with trolley, one day.

Thoughts?
2yearpostie
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Re: 25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by 2yearpostie »

Formally write a letter/email to your Dom asking them to shadow you for the day so they can advise how you can be more efficient ( I know you cant be more efficient but if they refuse youve covered your ass)
burtons
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Re: 25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by burtons »

Hi , I've had a similar problem years ago.. basically 25hour contract over 5 days, the job wasn't possible 10 years ago on a 25 hour contact.presuming your in the union have a word with rep or area rep ideally...I don't know why people are still employed on 25 hour contracts,fine if you want overtime, having words with the Dom most mornings was soul destroying for me..
sorefeet17
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Re: 25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by sorefeet17 »

Do you know the official hours for the route and how it compares to your hours? it will save a lot of arguing if you can point out that they are asking you to do something that is rated for more time than you actually have,
Jiperjuper
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Re: 25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by Jiperjuper »

sorefeet17 wrote: ↑
08 May 2021, 21:47
Do you know the official hours for the route and how it compares to your hours? it will save a lot of arguing if you can point out that they are asking you to do something that is rated for more time than you actually have,
Not a clue, no doubt it would be wrong? Ha.
Would it include large parcels etc
xPandabear1992x
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Re: 25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by xPandabear1992x »

do your time and cut off accordingly!
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: 25 hour week contract, not enough time? (Long read)

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

In these pandemic days of parcel madness outside of tradition pressure periods, a 5 hour shift including 30mins paid break is very challenging for completing a whole HCT duty and for a driving duty nigh on impossible, given it will take...
~30mins to grab SDs; do redirections; tie up frame and load it
Additional time for vehicle check
Travel to/from delivery area
~10mins inside depot at end of duty to deal with getting tools back to frame; ensuring bags/hct are clear of rerturned items; taking undelivered parcels to cage; washing your hands etc.

Leaves you with ~3.5 hours on the delivery itself at best, so with extra attendance calls from overweights/oversize if in a van and a van check, you have no chance of completing most days.

A 6 hour day for drivers and 5.5 hours for HCT users, coming in to a duty fully prepped, is far more realistic at least in my section... I really don't envy the 5-day 25 hour contract PTers these days, the expectations after the incoming revisions could be absolutely horrific.