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RMC : RMtv : Cutting out complaints - how vital it is we scan properly at the doorstep

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RMC : RMtv : Cutting out complaints - how vital it is we scan properly at the doorstep

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Chief commercial officer, Nick Landon, tells us how costly complaints are and how vital it is we scan properly at the doorstep to avoid issues with our customers.

‘It’s all in our gift to make a crucial difference,’ explains Nick. ‘Denial of receipt is the biggest cause of complaint we’re receiving. And the trend is going in the wrong direction for us.’

This is a trimmed version of a myroyalmail video.

https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/2021/04/dont-deny-them

Denial of receipt is the biggest cause of complaints we receive – but it’s within our power to reduce them. In this week’s RMtv, we heard how colleagues in Northallerton are doing just that. Now read the thoughts of Oswestry delivery office manager Mark Robinson, who has helped successfully cut denial of receipt complaints in his office over the last year. Alongside the ‘scan at the door, not before’ mantra – take advantage of his top tips and help bring better results across the business…

‘We have seen complaints overall go down in this office but one of the issues we have had throughout the year is with denial of receipt. That is one of the key focuses I’ve had as delivery office manager over the last year to get on top of and drive those denial of receipt complaints down.

‘I think it’s really easy to stop denial of receipt complaints if we just do the things we’re supposed to do.

‘Firstly, it’s important that every item we receive gets each scan it is due – be that in the mail centre, when it gets to the delivery office – the ‘ready to deliver’ scan – and then the scan on the doorstep.

‘Secondly, it’s important that colleagues understand that each item should only be scanned right at the doorstep – nowhere else. So, not in the van at the beginning of a loop, for instance.

‘My key advice is to scan the item before doing anything else. That’s before the knock on the door, or before writing a P739 card out. If the item is scanned first, the postie has to do something else with it before moving. I find that’s a really good way of making sure they get the scan.

‘Lastly, there is a camera function on the PDA. Colleagues should use it to take a picture of where they have left the item. That is so good for customers to be able to see what the item has been.

‘People are paying for the scan. They are paying that little bit extra to see where the parcel is and to see it in the pipeline. As soon as that isn’t done, we’re not actually providing the service they’re paying for.

‘From a managers’ perspective it’s about having processes in place to make sure items receive the right scans inside the building in the morning, analyse the information available to us and, where we see things not working, try and put things in place to make sure they do function properly. And I talk through each complaint I get with the individual postie involved, too.

‘In summary, for our posties, scan the item at the door – nowhere else – scan the item before you do anything – such as knock on the door or write a P739 card out – so you don’t forget to do the scan, and use the camera to take a picture. That will help reduce denial of receipt complaints.’
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Maybe a bit of a side story but has anyone been questioned by manager of denial of receipt of a parcel where gps has been used to say the item wasn’t scanned directly outside the property? One 3 occasions now I proved that the item was correctly delivered by going directly to the customer and being told oh sorry yes we do have it we made a mistake.GPS is not pin point and should not be used in any kind of fact finding if the item is scanned within the vicinity of the customer.
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Covid has been an absolute goldmine for people claiming that they haven't received items.
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chickenwittle wrote: ↑
14 Apr 2021, 15:32
Maybe a bit of a side story but has anyone been questioned by manager of denial of receipt of a parcel where gps has been used to say the item wasn’t scanned directly outside the property? One 3 occasions now I proved that the item was correctly delivered by going directly to the customer and being told oh sorry yes we do have it we made a mistake.GPS is not pin point and should not be used in any kind of fact finding if the item is scanned within the vicinity of the customer.
Or in some cases tell bare-faced lies. Theres no punishment for the 'customer' when this happens. We don't even get an apology.

Also about the GPS, a customer once complained about his parcel being delivered wrongly "down the road". Turned out the parcel had some kind of tracker inside which gave the location it was scanned 'delivered'. The location turned out to be a park across from his house.

He was adamant it had been 'mis-delivered' despite him answering the door and taking it from me.
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It's widely known that Amazon replace items without question if someone claims not to have received it.
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claretandblue wrote: ↑
14 Apr 2021, 16:00
It's widely known that Amazon replace items without question if someone claims not to have received it.
They don’t make it easy though. I had trouble with them doorstepping stuff before I moved last year (council estate no front garden) lost one parcel and it took me nearly an hour on the online chat to resolve. My neighbour lost 3 or 4, Amazon ended up banning him.
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maybe they should get pda,s that dont crash frequently log outand have to reboot
scan disappears not knowing if it has sent
every time you scan something cancel request appears on screen
our tech is s**t
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Some one complain last week to me saying they signed for letter but didn’t have it but I had given to them and xp1 on pda but they insisted hadn’t received it, but I clearly remember them having it then 2 days later they received same letter as a special and sarcastically saying to me that’s the replacement for the one I lost I then said I gave it to you and he just laughed saying not my signature o they sent replacements!
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Coffee lover wrote: ↑
14 Apr 2021, 17:00
Some one complain last week to me saying they signed for letter but didn’t have it but I had given to them and xp1 on pda but they insisted hadn’t received it, but I clearly remember them having it then 2 days later they received same letter as a special and sarcastically saying to me that’s the replacement for the one I lost I then said I gave it to you and he just laughed saying not my signature o they sent replacements!
I hate the way we are guilty until proven innocent by our own detective work . I know we all make mistakes at some point but the customer is always believed which is wrong.
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Only real solution is to do what some other firms DO. Take a picture of it when delivered. Absolute ball ache, but that's the only way. People will always lie if they think theyll get something for nowt
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hans solo wrote: ↑
14 Apr 2021, 16:48
maybe they should get pda,s that dont crash frequently log outand have to reboot
scan disappears not knowing if it has sent
every time you scan something cancel request appears on screen
our tech is s**t
Yes. My PDA crashed five times in an hour and a half this morning. Complete pain in the arse. Every time I logged back in I had to wait 'just a few moments' for 3-5 minutes before it stopped buffering. I had to go back to the office in the end to get a replacement (and entered two barcoded items as 'scanner failure', not wanting to keep people standing on their doorstep while my machine pondered whether or not it would deign to work).

Three days ago my PDA packed up completely and I ended up with about a dozen items that were entered as 'scanner failure'.

I confess I order a fair amount of stuff online and it seems only ever Royal Mail where there's a doorstep issue with PDAs.
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Tinoblade wrote: ↑
14 Apr 2021, 18:02
Only real solution is to do what some other firms DO. Take a picture of it when delivered. Absolute ball ache, but that's the only way. People will always lie if they think theyll get something for nowt
I suppose on the PDA you have the option of safeplace, other, then you could type in 'delivered to customer' then take a photo. Seems alot of hassle, unless you know the customer is taking the P.
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Still a grey area with Covid signed for.

If it fits through the letterbox do you just XP1 and post it?

Some say yes, official guidance is no.
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It's ridiculous and unrealistic that they expect us to have zero 'open clocks'.. with the sheer volume of stuff that now requires scanning combined with the ongoing propensity for our PDA's to crash a least once a day, not too mention the constant time pressure we're under every day, there's always going to be the occasional one slip through the net.
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We scan it on the doorstep and post it through or watch them pick it up and take it inside.

They claim they never received it and 9 times out of 10 RM will blame us. Great system!
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