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Musculoskeletal Report2018
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robbertwhitton
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Musculoskeletal Report2018
Just read the report and wondered what stuff Royal Mail has implemented from the results and findings from it!?like most of us oldies I suffer from aches and pains and osteoarthritis of the hip,the repetitive nature does take its toll,and not sure how they manage us without being to ruthless etc
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1617mel
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Re: Musculoskeletal Report2018
hello robert ,im 62 and in city delivery, lots of tenements etc, im at the moment on sick leave banged my thigh just above the knee, had a month off excruciating pain , also some sciatica and knee and hip pain.although now slowly getting better.im going back a week on monday , every day now is a massive challenge physically, never absent normally , maybe once or twice every 3 or 4 years, and this will be only because i physically cant do the job. my circumstances wont allow me to retire early, so im heading for a 66 year old finnish, like yourself im worried that if i had to go early, would they look favourably on us. and give us even a small final settlement. What is the muscoscelator agreement.
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fb1969
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Re: Musculoskeletal Report2018
It isn't an agreement, it was a report which seems to have been ignored by both the company and the CWU viewtopic.php?f=15&t=86990
The vast majority of respondents were delivery postmen and women (OPGs), there were a small number of drivers, callers’ office staff, managers and DOM supports.
Most participants were male, just under 10% were female.
Ages were from under 24 to over 65 years, with the peak age group 45 – 55 years and a sharp drop off above this level.
There were a comparable number of participants above 55 years as below 35 years.
The most common delivery methods were shared van with a pouch or trolley and HCT walks. 56% of those with a shared van described their duty as a shared van and trolley or shared van with pouch and trolley.
Musculoskeletal Problems
68% of those surveyed reported pain or discomfort affecting their muscles, joints, neck or back, affected work and other regular activities.
77% of these had suffered from this discomfort for more than 3 months.
63% of these individuals said the pain was intermittent.
32% said pain and discomfort was constant.
21% said that they had taken time off due to aches and pains in the past 3 months.
63% said that their aches and pains were caused by work.
47% said that their aches and pain was made worse by work.
35% thought that their aches and pains affected their ability to work a great deal or quite a lot.
43% thought it affected their ability somewhat.
22% thought that they affected their ability to work very little or not at all.
Lower back, feet and knees were the most common areas affected as would be expected from sick absence data and other ergonomics studies. However, almost 40% of participants reported discomfort in their shoulders, and a significant proportion also reported aches and pains in the neck, upper back, ankles, hips, hands and arms.
Tasks contributing to musculoskeletal problems
Walking was the aspect of the work most commonly identified as the cause or contributing factor of musculoskeletal problems. Lifting, carrying pouches, going up and down stairs, standing for long periods of time, getting into and out of vans, stress/pressure and workload where also frequently identified. Carrying heavy bags and not using trolleys as a result of pressure to keep up with colleagues or pressure from management were causes identified. Excessive amounts of overtime and working days off were also considered a problem. Increase in workload was the most common problem identified. Absorption was specifically identified also. Other issues most commonly identified were an increase in the length of the delivery span and pressure/stress, “to get the mail out by any means”. 4.5 hour delivery spans were noted by many individuals as too long. Work schedules described with longer days and 6 day weeks leading to week off after every 4 weeks were considered not to give adequate time for recovery by several participants. Footwear was identified as a problem in 2.1% of responses and during the workshops, better fit and more cushioning was considered necessary. Other issues raised were: Different work patterns, one day off each week not enough, change to a different duty and you are not aware of workloads. Poor working environment and conditions in Offices.
Older workers
The report identifies the impact of work and increasing age and some of the staff felt that they found the work harder than they used to due to wear and tear on their joints. They found the more physical aspects of the job harder e.g. climbing stairs, hills, carrying heavy items and getting into and out of vans. They also said that they felt exhausted all of the time and thought that allowances should be made to work slower as they got older. Others thought that the job had got harder, particularly in relation to the increased delivery span and pressure to increase efficiency and complete and that their abilities had not declined.
Report Conclusions
There was a very high response rate to the survey.
60% of individuals suffered from musculoskeletal problems that they thought were caused or made worse by their work.
The main causes of problems were thought to be the length of the delivery span, workload and pressure/stress. The new delivery methods were positive in reducing the weights carried but the benefit had been offset by longer delivery spans.
The most common changes that individuals had made to reduce their problems included not rushing, using trolleys, taking breaks, wearing their own footwear or insoles and having physio. Changes made to reduce problems to allow return to work included changing the delivery or delivery method, reduced span or indoor working.
The role of the manager was seen as important in helping people back to work. A genuine welcome back with a suitable return to work plan were seen as important by staff and managers.
The 18 page report is attached, giving more details.
The Royal Mail Group Head of Health has formed a National Joint Health Board and three sub-groups looking at Ageing Workforce and Musculoskeletal issues, Mental Health and Health Programmes and Initiatives. All groups have the involvement of the CWU Health, Safety & Environment Department and Postal Department.
The vast majority of respondents were delivery postmen and women (OPGs), there were a small number of drivers, callers’ office staff, managers and DOM supports.
Most participants were male, just under 10% were female.
Ages were from under 24 to over 65 years, with the peak age group 45 – 55 years and a sharp drop off above this level.
There were a comparable number of participants above 55 years as below 35 years.
The most common delivery methods were shared van with a pouch or trolley and HCT walks. 56% of those with a shared van described their duty as a shared van and trolley or shared van with pouch and trolley.
Musculoskeletal Problems
68% of those surveyed reported pain or discomfort affecting their muscles, joints, neck or back, affected work and other regular activities.
77% of these had suffered from this discomfort for more than 3 months.
63% of these individuals said the pain was intermittent.
32% said pain and discomfort was constant.
21% said that they had taken time off due to aches and pains in the past 3 months.
63% said that their aches and pains were caused by work.
47% said that their aches and pain was made worse by work.
35% thought that their aches and pains affected their ability to work a great deal or quite a lot.
43% thought it affected their ability somewhat.
22% thought that they affected their ability to work very little or not at all.
Lower back, feet and knees were the most common areas affected as would be expected from sick absence data and other ergonomics studies. However, almost 40% of participants reported discomfort in their shoulders, and a significant proportion also reported aches and pains in the neck, upper back, ankles, hips, hands and arms.
Tasks contributing to musculoskeletal problems
Walking was the aspect of the work most commonly identified as the cause or contributing factor of musculoskeletal problems. Lifting, carrying pouches, going up and down stairs, standing for long periods of time, getting into and out of vans, stress/pressure and workload where also frequently identified. Carrying heavy bags and not using trolleys as a result of pressure to keep up with colleagues or pressure from management were causes identified. Excessive amounts of overtime and working days off were also considered a problem. Increase in workload was the most common problem identified. Absorption was specifically identified also. Other issues most commonly identified were an increase in the length of the delivery span and pressure/stress, “to get the mail out by any means”. 4.5 hour delivery spans were noted by many individuals as too long. Work schedules described with longer days and 6 day weeks leading to week off after every 4 weeks were considered not to give adequate time for recovery by several participants. Footwear was identified as a problem in 2.1% of responses and during the workshops, better fit and more cushioning was considered necessary. Other issues raised were: Different work patterns, one day off each week not enough, change to a different duty and you are not aware of workloads. Poor working environment and conditions in Offices.
Older workers
The report identifies the impact of work and increasing age and some of the staff felt that they found the work harder than they used to due to wear and tear on their joints. They found the more physical aspects of the job harder e.g. climbing stairs, hills, carrying heavy items and getting into and out of vans. They also said that they felt exhausted all of the time and thought that allowances should be made to work slower as they got older. Others thought that the job had got harder, particularly in relation to the increased delivery span and pressure to increase efficiency and complete and that their abilities had not declined.
Report Conclusions
There was a very high response rate to the survey.
60% of individuals suffered from musculoskeletal problems that they thought were caused or made worse by their work.
The main causes of problems were thought to be the length of the delivery span, workload and pressure/stress. The new delivery methods were positive in reducing the weights carried but the benefit had been offset by longer delivery spans.
The most common changes that individuals had made to reduce their problems included not rushing, using trolleys, taking breaks, wearing their own footwear or insoles and having physio. Changes made to reduce problems to allow return to work included changing the delivery or delivery method, reduced span or indoor working.
The role of the manager was seen as important in helping people back to work. A genuine welcome back with a suitable return to work plan were seen as important by staff and managers.
The 18 page report is attached, giving more details.
The Royal Mail Group Head of Health has formed a National Joint Health Board and three sub-groups looking at Ageing Workforce and Musculoskeletal issues, Mental Health and Health Programmes and Initiatives. All groups have the involvement of the CWU Health, Safety & Environment Department and Postal Department.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
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noggin1969
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Re: Musculoskeletal Report2018
I'm surprised no law firm (no win no fee type) have tried it on with a class action. Miners and some other heavy industries have had good payouts.
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Marshamp11
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- Joined: 06 Aug 2018, 16:38
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Re: Musculoskeletal Report2018
Exactly. It would help if some of the ailments mentioned were deemed as industrial injuries specific to the job that we do. Just need a test case win to potentially open the flood gates.noggin1969 wrote: ↑22 Jan 2021, 09:19I'm surprised no law firm (no win no fee type) have tried it on with a class action. Miners and some other heavy industries have had good payouts.
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hans solo
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Re: Musculoskeletal Report2018
its coming
just wait for increase in delivery spans with the wonderful agreement and people will start dropping
just wait for increase in delivery spans with the wonderful agreement and people will start dropping
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robbertwhitton
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- Joined: 30 Aug 2010, 19:06
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Re: Musculoskeletal Report2018
Hi just came across the report as am going through long term sickness due to needing a hip replacement and also a knee operation on my injured knee,I am keen to leave after some 40/years in service and at age 59,it’s not the job for me any more,just seems to wreck your body and can’t enjoy the job as much as I love my rural delivery,I took my pension a few years ago in a lump sum and get a monthly payment,and been enrolled in another,have had a referral and may yet decide on the I’ll health retirement possibility ,1617mel wrote: ↑22 Jan 2021, 03:56hello robert ,im 62 and in city delivery, lots of tenements etc, im at the moment on sick leave banged my thigh just above the knee, had a month off excruciating pain , also some sciatica and knee and hip pain.although now slowly getting better.im going back a week on monday , every day now is a massive challenge physically, never absent normally , maybe once or twice every 3 or 4 years, and this will be only because i physically cant do the job. my circumstances wont allow me to retire early, so im heading for a 66 year old finnish, like yourself im worried that if i had to go early, would they look favourably on us. and give us even a small final settlement. What is the muscoscelator agreement.