More time on Delivery - Is this in the new agreement?

[edward918]

I've been waysiding this week, so meeting my colleague at the first loop and then get paid 5 hours from when I actually deliver my first letter. Obviously, 5 hours to deliver 6 bags of mail and help out with the oversized parcels by taking them in a trolley is just about enough time in my opinion. However, for the driver, despite them being on a 31-hour contract, they are paid from 8:30 - 9:30 to bag up a walk, load everything into the van and then from 9:30 - 15:00 to deliver 6 bags of mail, plus a lot of oversized parcels.

The main problem here is that we aren't delivering our first letter until around 10:30, or in some cases 11:00. This means that, although I have plenty of time, they only have 4 - 4.5 hours to deliver everything, which especially now that the volume of parcels will no doubt be increasing, is not enough time!

I've been trying my best to help out as I feel the workload isn't equal at all between us two, unless, like I say, I take a trolley on every loop, along with the oversized parcels in the other bag to help out.

I think we should get paid 5 hours from when we start our first letter and also 2 hours (on a busy day) to bag up, load van and drive to the start point, so 7 hours for a delivery instead of 4.5 - 5 hours. I really hope the new agreement highlights this, or someone who is in the Union could pass this message on.

If I were the driver on this or most duties in fact, I would simply not be able to complete everything in time, unless the majority of oversized were taken off me as I'm only 25 hours, so 5 hours to bag a walk up, load van AND deliver everything.

[I_Take_My_Breaks]

I've been waysiding this week, so meeting my colleague at the first loop and then get paid 5 hours from when I actually deliver my first letter. Obviously, 5 hours to deliver 6 bags of mail and help out with the oversized parcels by taking them in a trolley is just about enough time in my opinion. However, for the driver, despite them being on a 31-hour contract, they are paid from 8:30 - 9:30 to bag up a walk, load everything into the van and then from 9:30 - 15:00 to deliver 6 bags of mail, plus a lot of oversized parcels.

The main problem here is that we aren't delivering our first letter until around 10:30, or in some cases 11:00. This means that, although I have plenty of time, they only have 4 - 4.5 hours to deliver everything, which especially now that the volume of parcels will no doubt be increasing, is not enough time!

I've been trying my best to help out as I feel the workload isn't equal at all between us two, unless, like I say, I take a trolley on every loop, along with the oversized parcels in the other bag to help out.

I think we should get paid 5 hours from when we start our first letter and also 2 hours (on a busy day) to bag up, load van and drive to the start point, so 7 hours for a delivery instead of 4.5 - 5 hours. I really hope the new agreement highlights this, or someone who is in the Union could pass this message on.

Jesus is this person real!!

You always start on time at your office regardless of how much mail/parcels there is. Either work to your time and follow the cut off procedure or agree overtime and book off when your are back at the office

[1984]

You get paid for the hours you work, not the work you do

[max49]

Remember in your 5 hour working day, 30 minutes of that is your paid meal break time.

[JKSmudge]

The Union leadership is not interested in the actual real-world problems of the avarage postie ( double or triple lapsing 11 months of the year / overload of indoor work / no heating indoors / etc etc etc ). They are too busy back-slapping about their pet project of reducing the hours of the working week, meaning you have less time to complete the same amount ( later and later finishes or cut off ).

[number one]

The Union leadership is not interested in the actual real-world problems of the avarage postie ( double or triple lapsing 11 months of the year / overload of indoor work / no heating indoors / etc etc etc ). They are too busy back-slapping about their pet project of reducing the hours of the working week, meaning you have less time to complete the same amount ( later and later finishes or cut off ).

The Union isn’t there to hold your hand or to tell you when to eat and drink. I can’t say it too many times YOU HAVE A FINISH TIME!!!!

[yubin282]

Nothing will change with the new agreement. The only people more deluded than RM are the CWU.

Just wait until we have revisions and the figures say that all offices need more hours/staff - we get none and don't get the SWW.

VOTE NO.

[JKSmudge]

The Union leadership is not interested in the actual real-world problems of the avarage postie ( double or triple lapsing 11 months of the year / overload of indoor work / no heating indoors / etc etc etc ). They are too busy back-slapping about their pet project of reducing the hours of the working week, meaning you have less time to complete the same amount ( later and later finishes or cut off ).

The Union isn’t there to hold your hand or to tell you when to eat and drink. I can’t say it too many times YOU HAVE A FINISH TIME!!!!

Why so spikey? - yes we have a finish time ( sick of hearing the same old mantra ). Most of us also like to complete our walk ( call it a sense of duty / pride in our work..... ).

BTW did you fully read my comment ?

[clashcityrocker]

The Union isn’t there to hold your hand or to tell you when to eat and drink. I can’t say it too many times YOU HAVE A FINISH TIME!!!!

That is a wonderful quote from someone who has bragged on here continuously about how they finish early and how much ghost docket they do.
And don't shout at us. It is incredibly ignorant of you.

[Acca Dacca]

If they are only starting to pay you from the first letter you deliver then insist on going to the office and travelling - stuff that, they are shafting you big time

[SpacePhoenix]

The Union leadership is not interested in the actual real-world problems of the avarage postie ( double or triple lapsing 11 months of the year / overload of indoor work / no heating indoors / etc etc etc ). They are too busy back-slapping about their pet project of reducing the hours of the working week, meaning you have less time to complete the same amount ( later and later finishes or cut off ).

The Union isn’t there to hold your hand or to tell you when to eat and drink. I can’t say it too many times YOU HAVE A FINISH TIME!!!!

Why so spikey? - yes we have a finish time ( sick of hearing the same old mantra ). Most of us also like to complete our walk ( call it a sense of duty / pride in our work..... ).

BTW did you fully read my comment ?

Why moan about the lapsing then? If more posties cut off then there wouldn't be lapsing and there'd be a better chance of hours being put back into an office

[edward918]

If they are only starting to pay you from the first letter you deliver then insist on going to the office and travelling - stuff that, they are shafting you big time

I haven't been travelling to my DO this week, just meeting my colleague at the first loop once they turn up in the van and then dead walking to each other loop, hence why I've had enough time, yet he hasn't sadly.

[Acca Dacca]

If they are only starting to pay you from the first letter you deliver then insist on going to the office and travelling - stuff that, they are shafting you big time

I haven't been travelling to my DO this week, just meeting my colleague at the first loop once they turn up in the van and then dead walking to each other loop, hence why I've had enough time, yet he hasn't sadly.

Thats what im saying - insist on going into the office and be paid to travel to the walk and back - by only paying you from the minute you start delivering so the entire span of your working day is out on foot is them doing you over.

[JKSmudge]

The Union leadership is not interested in the actual real-world problems of the avarage postie ( double or triple lapsing 11 months of the year / overload of indoor work / no heating indoors / etc etc etc ). They are too busy back-slapping about their pet project of reducing the hours of the working week, meaning you have less time to complete the same amount ( later and later finishes or cut off ).

The Union isn’t there to hold your hand or to tell you when to eat and drink. I can’t say it too many times YOU HAVE A FINISH TIME!!!!

Why so spikey? - yes we have a finish time ( sick of hearing the same old mantra ). Most of us also like to complete our walk ( call it a sense of duty / pride in our work..... ).

BTW did you fully read my comment ?

Why moan about the lapsing then? If more posties cut off then there wouldn't be lapsing and there'd be a better chance of hours being put back into an office

Why 'moan' about anything then genius - I refer you to my previous comment....

[SpacePhoenix]

The Union leadership is not interested in the actual real-world problems of the avarage postie ( double or triple lapsing 11 months of the year / overload of indoor work / no heating indoors / etc etc etc ). They are too busy back-slapping about their pet project of reducing the hours of the working week, meaning you have less time to complete the same amount ( later and later finishes or cut off ).

The Union isn’t there to hold your hand or to tell you when to eat and drink. I can’t say it too many times YOU HAVE A FINISH TIME!!!!

Why so spikey? - yes we have a finish time ( sick of hearing the same old mantra ). Most of us also like to complete our walk ( call it a sense of duty / pride in our work..... ).

BTW did you fully read my comment ?

Why moan about the lapsing then? If more posties cut off then there wouldn't be lapsing and there'd be a better chance of hours being put back into an office

Why 'moan' about anything then genius - I refer you to my previous comment....

Oh well you don't care about cutting off so why should anyone else care about you having to do lapsing and when RM eventually add more delivery points to your walk?