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Clocking in and out entry system

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norris9
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Clocking in and out entry system

Post by norris9 »

These new clocking in and out entry systems that are coming in at our depots....

What is the purpose?

I'd be surprised if it's for security / safety, but maybe it is simply for this.


Do any depots have them currently? and if so are these entry systems keeping track of your overtime?
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Post by P13 »

norris9 wrote: ↑
22 Dec 2020, 21:07
These new clocking in and out entry systems that are coming in at our depots....

What is the purpose?

I'd be surprised if it's for security / safety, but maybe it is simply for this.


Do any depots have them currently? and if so are these entry systems keeping track of your overtime?
If you read the agreement it is not used for pay purposes
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Scan In/Out data will not be used for the automatic reduction of contractual pay or
allowances based on data captured, or to reduce overtime pay where a (verbal)
contract has been agreed with the manager prior to commencement.
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andyman606
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No point then..... business as usual easy Street crew still not doing their working hours or Will they soon when those rounds get bigger....the truth will be revealed in the coming year....hold tight it's going to be fun!
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Post by 1617mel »

yes its not as simple as it wont be used for any purpose, i for one wish it would be used for pay, although it will not be feasable when the shorter working week comes about,they will not be wishing to pay for the extended delivery daily. what it will look at as it says in the new agreement is the magic word" resourcing" where perhaps an hour or more spare daily, the other magic word "revisions " watch this space.on the good side it looks like and it should be seeing the masses and volumes we have now been delivering since the pandemic started, is that there will be no forced redundancies
down side longer outside spans of deliveries, not so good for our physical well being , i wonder what the senior company doctor thinks of this, will most defineately lead to more injuries and breakdowns ,but i hope this agreement works it should take care of the business for years to come merry christmas. :Very Happy
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Post by 2yearpostie »

About bloody time, sign on sheets have to be kept for 6 years and thats a s**t load of paper for no reason. much easier to keep it in digital format and less open to corruption.
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I’ve never signed in or out & I’ve just been to look at the sheets not many do, what’s the point of them?
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Post by 2yearpostie »

twoloops wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 08:01
I’ve never signed in or out & I’ve just been to look at the sheets not many do, what’s the point of them?
in case of emergency to see who is in the building/on delivery quickly
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

2yearpostie wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 08:09
twoloops wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 08:01
I’ve never signed in or out & I’ve just been to look at the sheets not many do, what’s the point of them?
in case of emergency to see who is in the building/on delivery quickly
They don't do role call during any evacuation now, they stopped doing so a few years ago
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 09:52
2yearpostie wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 08:09
twoloops wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 08:01
I’ve never signed in or out & I’ve just been to look at the sheets not many do, what’s the point of them?
in case of emergency to see who is in the building/on delivery quickly
They don't do role call during any evacuation now, they stopped doing so a few years ago
I think management only did it to see who bothered coming out.
It's never been a recognised fire safety protocol precisely because nobody can be arsed filling them in so the information is useless.
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Post by CHUCKYPIG »

It should be used for payroll why not?

I wish it would be used for payroll. With management bullies still in place old timers with easy walks get to clock off early and get paid for not working, whilst newbies are bullied into working unpaid overtime. Current system in our DO works for the old timers and shafts the newbies.

Roll on a new system. Gotta be fairer than the current one.
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You would have to be very naive or trying to kid the troops if you think Royal Mail will go to all this expense to save some paper.

They're not idiots.
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2yearpostie
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not really 99.9% of other uk and indeed worldwide business use a digital clock in and out system, in fact the factory my dad worked at had one and that closed down 15 years ago and they only had 6 employees!
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Post by Schiff »

Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑
23 Dec 2020, 13:07
You would have to be very naive or trying to kid the troops if you think Royal Mail will go to all this expense to save some paper.

They're not idiots.
It will certainly provide them with all of the data that they need to increase the size of duties in the annual revisions.

Some idiot smugly clocking out an hour early each day won't have their pay deducted, but from the next revision you can bet that they won't be finishing early any more.
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Post by twoloops »

Let’s hope it not let you in until your start time :crazy: