Shocking what's going on.

Dazdec197296 · Post by **Dazdec197296** » 05 Nov 2020, 17:56

I’ve Been on the same job all week, Went in this morning to be told I was being put on another job that hadn’t gone out since Monday. When I got out on the round I had so much mail and parcels I had to deliver Mail first the go back around with parcels due to lack of room and weight of bag.
Tomorrow I am back on my job which didn’t go out today so I have now got double mail and parcels tomorrow. I am on a 30 hour contract and when I go in tomorrow I am going to tell them that from now on I am only going to work my contracted hours and not a minute over so they are not going to be happy but my well being and health is more important. Also is there anything the Union can do about us being made to do double and triple mail because the weight in the bags is very heavy and is surely a health and safety issue.

noggin1969 · Post by **noggin1969** » 05 Nov 2020, 18:02

Stick

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » 05 Nov 2020, 18:19

It really is beyond belief how bad things have got in some offices.
Our office has ZERO covid related absences but the same runs are left in for days on end, with other traditional 'shared van' duties being given 3 members of staff to clear them several times a week.
We've lost quite a few experienced staff through sackings/resignations/IHR and nothing has been done to replace them.

Pumpernickel · Post by **Pumpernickel** » 05 Nov 2020, 18:34

Dazdec197296 wrote:I’ve Been on the same job all week, Went in this morning to be told I was being put on another job that hadn’t gone out since Monday. When I got out on the round I had so much mail and parcels I had to deliver Mail first the go back around with parcels due to lack of room and weight of bag.
Tomorrow I am back on my job which didn’t go out today so I have now got double mail and parcels tomorrow. I am on a 30 hour contract and when I go in tomorrow I am going to tell them that from now on I am only going to work my contracted hours and not a minute over so they are not going to be happy but my well being and health is more important. Also is there anything the Union can do about us being made to do double and triple mail because the weight in the bags is very heavy and is surely a health and safety issue.

Been happening to me, pretty much weekly, for months.

Take what you think you can do and bring back anything you can't finish before hometime. Taking it all when it's clearly unmanagable will annoy you due to it seeming an impossible task, and all that stuff in the back of the van getting in the way of what you can do.

Have a cut off time for sorting your parcels, after this time anything that isn't tracked stays in a york unsorted (make sure you get all the tracked out though!).

If you need to reorganise loops then reorganise them. Keep your bags managable.

Have a cut off time in mind to abandon mail and finish the tracked/oversize before your finish time.

If you find that you could do more than you had expected (ie you didn't take enough out, easily done especially if you don't know a walk intimately), just grab another loop when you get back to take you to your finish time.

ashadd · Post by **ashadd** » 05 Nov 2020, 20:01

What happened to using a trolley?

Chelseablue · Post by **Chelseablue** » 05 Nov 2020, 20:09

What are the rms plans for this quiet christmas? Not heard a peep , so short of staff its gonna be fun

matthew68 · Post by **matthew68** » 05 Nov 2020, 20:16

noggin1969 wrote:Stick to bag weight and delivery methods. Start on time , take your break/s , , follow cut off procedure , finish on time.

What is the cut off procedure? Because today had arguments with stand in manager as I said I wasn’t doing lapsing, he said I had to take it out but I wasn’t going past my time today as I’ve had enough and felt too tired today, he then says I am lucky to be in a job at the moment and there are thousands of people who would jump at the chance of this job! He said I wasn’t following procedures properly and if I brought mail back it would be a disciplinary! I just said to him I’m doing my hours and that’s it, he then went crazy when I brought my last loop back and left lapsing in frame! He said he would take this further tomorrow, but it was crazy today and I just worked my hours they all just seem a bunch of bullies

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 05 Nov 2020, 20:31

Dazdec197296 wrote:I’ve Been on the same job all week, Went in this morning to be told I was being put on another job that hadn’t gone out since Monday. When I got out on the round I had so much mail and parcels I had to deliver Mail first the go back around with parcels due to lack of room and weight of bag.
Tomorrow I am back on my job which didn’t go out today so I have now got double mail and parcels tomorrow. I am on a 30 hour contract and when I go in tomorrow I am going to tell them that from now on I am only going to work my contracted hours and not a minute over so they are not going to be happy but my well being and health is more important. Also is there anything the Union can do about us being made to do double and triple mail because the weight in the bags is very heavy and is surely a health and safety issue.

Every time I have a day off I walk in to a frame that has mail from yesterday plus yesterday's D2Ds and packets. Add in todays mail, D2Ds and packets and you have the perfect recipe for a duty that isn't going to be delivered in full yet again. Some walks haven't been touched for days with packets left on Yorks. All the managers really care about is getting the Specials and Tracked items delivered.

The USO isn't a priority for the business because of Covid and managers are quite reluctant to pay someone overtime just to clear the mail. They will, however, expect you to try and deliver 3 days worth of mail and packets in just one day. The Union will simply say work your hours and don't worry about the possible side effects of walks that are failing because managers won't pay overtime to get the mail cleared or staff going on sick through delivery pressure.

noggin1969 · Post by **noggin1969** » 05 Nov 2020, 20:35

What is the cut off procedure? Because today had arguments with stand in manager as I said I wasn’t doing lapsing, he said I had to take it out but I wasn’t going past my time today as I’ve had enough and felt too tired today, he then says I am lucky to be in a job at the moment and there are thousands of people who would jump at the chance of this job! He said I wasn’t following procedures properly and if I brought mail back it would be a disciplinary! I just said to him I’m doing my hours and that’s it, he then went crazy when I brought my last loop back and left lapsing in frame! He said he would take this further tomorrow, but it was crazy today and I just worked my hours they all just seem a bunch of bullies

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Post by **POSTMAN** » 05 Nov 2020, 20:39

Chelseablue wrote:What are the rms plans for this quiet christmas? Not heard a peep , so short of staff its gonna be fun

LTB 513/20 - Peak/Christmas Arrangements 2020/21

Post by **hawkeye622** » 05 Nov 2020, 21:29

matthew68 wrote:
noggin1969 wrote:Stick to bag weight and delivery methods. Start on time , take your break/s , , follow cut off procedure , finish on time.
What is the cut off procedure? Because today had arguments with stand in manager as I said I wasn’t doing lapsing, he said I had to take it out but I wasn’t going past my time today as I’ve had enough and felt too tired today, he then says I am lucky to be in a job at the moment and there are thousands of people who would jump at the chance of this job! He said I wasn’t following procedures properly and if I brought mail back it would be a disciplinary! I just said to him I’m doing my hours and that’s it, he then went crazy when I brought my last loop back and left lapsing in frame! He said he would take this further tomorrow, but it was crazy today and I just worked my hours they all just seem a bunch of bullies

He sounds like an absolute bellend. Just do what you gotta do bud, work your hours. They really do drive you to not wanting to help them out at all.

Post by **hawkeye622** » 05 Nov 2020, 21:32

Dazdec197296 wrote:I’ve Been on the same job all week, Went in this morning to be told I was being put on another job that hadn’t gone out since Monday. When I got out on the round I had so much mail and parcels I had to deliver Mail first the go back around with parcels due to lack of room and weight of bag.
Tomorrow I am back on my job which didn’t go out today so I have now got double mail and parcels tomorrow. I am on a 30 hour contract and when I go in tomorrow I am going to tell them that from now on I am only going to work my contracted hours and not a minute over so they are not going to be happy but my well being and health is more important. Also is there anything the Union can do about us being made to do double and triple mail because the weight in the bags is very heavy and is surely a health and safety issue.

Its disgusting how some ppl are treated. There's a couple of guys in our office that always get shafted - always clearing frames with two or three days mail/d2ds & parcels. Shocking!

Bahia Feliz · Post by **Bahia Feliz** » 06 Nov 2020, 16:02

We are on a 7hr 36 day everyday now,do 1hr IPS. I am more or less only taking half my round out each day now (rural) plus the tracked/specials for the other half.
quite enjoying it actually,no hassle from managers,no absorption/lapsing,I take the other half the next day etc.

2yearpostie · Post by **2yearpostie** » 06 Nov 2020, 16:07

Split your loops into mini loops

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » 06 Nov 2020, 17:21

Bahia Feliz wrote:We are on a 7hr 36 day everyday now,do 1hr IPS. I am more or less only taking half my round out each day now (rural) plus the tracked/specials for the other half.
quite enjoying it actually,no hassle from managers,no absorption/lapsing,I take the other half the next day etc.

We are on practically the same daily hours as that, so minus break we are roughly 7 hours which translates as 1.5 hour indoor and 5.5 hours outdoor.
I read on the DISPUTE thread that the company want us to be first letter to last letter = 5 hours. Erm, we are well over that as it is.

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