cwu transparency

hans solo · Post by **hans solo** » 30 Sep 2020, 20:12

was it not agreed when entering talks with rm cwu would be transparent with the membership on the subject
non disclosure seems to be the case again leaving us out to dry again
what is going on hq
why are you not disclosing info to the people who you are meant to represent
is it so bad your scared to let us know
release the details please its what your supposed to do inform membership

toonshola · Post by **toonshola** » 30 Sep 2020, 20:22

The silence speaks volumes for me. No real details have been given about any of the negotiations, its all just jargon and buzzwords. Which leads me to believe either they will agree an absolute shocking deal, or Royal mail are on the verge of telling them to do one and the Union will be back to rallying the troops on facebook for another ballot. This Christmas is going to be the worst ever haha

postieblueshirt · Post by **postieblueshirt** » 30 Sep 2020, 21:30

toonshola wrote:The silence speaks volumes for me. No real details have been given about any of the negotiations, its all just jargon and buzzwords. Which leads me to believe either they will agree an absolute shocking deal, or Royal mail are on the verge of telling them to do one and the Union will be back to rallying the troops on facebook for another ballot. This Christmas is going to be the worst ever haha

Yeah I'm thinking the same royal mail could just call CWU's bluff and how much support have they got now?

xPandabear1992x · Post by **xPandabear1992x** » 30 Sep 2020, 23:11

on one of the recent press releases DGS(P) implied that either Royal Mail is telling the CWU to keep quiet about recent negotiations or that the CWU are keeping quiet to quell speculation about the negotiations.

means nothing to me though, a trade union is mandated to keep its members informed of any dealings so hiding anything makes them untrustworthy.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 01 Oct 2020, 16:11

Perhaps in keeping with the zeitgeist we should lock them all in a house and watch the negotiations live.
Sporadically we can vote out a negotiator we don't like?

deltaforce · Post by **deltaforce** » 01 Oct 2020, 16:37

Any prospective deal are presented to the relevant committees and if they pass muster then they are passed on to us for a ballot yeah or nay. I’m not sure why you need a piecemeal update of what is a complex set of negotiations, of which RM may have requested that they be done in camera untill a deal has been agreed in principle.

postieblueshirt · Post by **postieblueshirt** » 01 Oct 2020, 21:34

deltaforce wrote:Any prospective deal are presented to the relevant committees and if they pass muster then they are passed on to us for a ballot yeah or nay. I’m not sure why you need a piecemeal update of what is a complex set of negotiations, of which RM may have requested that they be done in camera untill a deal has been agreed in principle.

Sorry any chance you could explain what you wrote a bit simpler?.did you mean we are not due any explanation at this time because the negotiations are ongoing.

toonshola · Post by **toonshola** » 01 Oct 2020, 21:51

postieblueshirt wrote:
deltaforce wrote:Any prospective deal are presented to the relevant committees and if they pass muster then they are passed on to us for a ballot yeah or nay. I’m not sure why you need a piecemeal update of what is a complex set of negotiations, of which RM may have requested that they be done in camera untill a deal has been agreed in principle.
Sorry any chance you could explain what you wrote a bit simpler?.did you mean we are not due any explanation at this time because the negotiations are ongoing.

Basically means you have no right as a paying union member to any of the details being spoke about in the secret rooms, you also won’t get any of the leftover biscuits from said meeting. When/if an agreement is reached it will be written in legal jargon so us low level plebs can’t make sense of it, the only part that will be crystal clear is the £300 bung to gain acceptance from enough members to pass it. It’s all a stitch up every time.

Post by **aiden01** » 01 Oct 2020, 21:57

at least dingo use to give us an idea wtf was going on but now hes a member of the pec guess hes not allowed to.

Edward Hunter · Post by **Edward Hunter** » 01 Oct 2020, 22:05

the only part that will be crystal clear is the £300 bung to gain acceptance from enough members to pass it. It’s all a stitch up every time.[/quote]

Oh 300 quid , where do i sign!

postieblueshirt · Post by **postieblueshirt** » 02 Oct 2020, 05:43

300 minus tax of course and national insurance will take there whack to..

Post by **HTPostman** » 02 Oct 2020, 05:58

postieblueshirt wrote:300 minus tax of course and national insurance will take there whack to..

Pro rata too.