Working as a Self Employed Courier - Flexible timing while working for RM

postman15 · Post by **postman15** » 08 Jun 2020, 22:13

Hi,

First of all I hope all of you are safe and well. I am working as a P/T and thinking to top up my income by working as a self employed courier driver. There are few vacancies in my area which i am interested in applying, Have access to a car and a small van which i thinking of using for this job.

1)Anyone here working/worked for a similar company?
2) How many hours worked each hour and was the pay ok? As long as i can earn around £700 per month that is fine by me. Also is this a realistic amount? I am ok to work in the evening and weekends especially whole sunday if possible. (Do not have that many commitments)

Thanks in advance

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 08 Jun 2020, 22:20

I'd check the t's and c's of your contract. I'd be shocked if ours didn't have a clause that says you can't work for a direct rival, most big companies include such clauses in contracts.

postman15 · Post by **postman15** » 08 Jun 2020, 22:27

Thanks for mentioning the contract. I honestly forgot about it. I dont think I have contract expect for the 1st contract i received from RM 6 years ago. Thanks again

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 08 Jun 2020, 23:04

It's in the RM Code of Business Standards not in your contract.

Employees must not work for, receive payment from or advertise any organisation which is in competition with Royal Mail Group, or which is engaged in activities which bring Royal Mail Group into disrepute, including any personal sponsorship

postman15 · Post by **postman15** » 08 Jun 2020, 23:38

Thanks. I will check the T&C mentioned there.

GRS · Post by **GRS** » 09 Jun 2020, 09:01

Firstly who’s gonna know. Secondly who’s gonna give a s**t...... I mean you doing a few hours as a courier is hardly going to make or break RM. Thirdly although it may well be in RM T&C I’m sure if challenged by someone it would nowadays be classed as unlawful. Restricting someone’s right to earn a living, particularly if as an employer you can’t provide them with a living wage due to only offering P/T contracts.

Janet Brum · Post by **Janet Brum** » 09 Jun 2020, 09:42

The tax man will know plus if he has an accident with another parcel company van he will have to declare to his insurrer and RM.
Is best to find a job wich is not involving driving at all.

postman15 · Post by **postman15** » 09 Jun 2020, 17:36

Thank you all for your responses. I seen in other posts that posties have mentioned that they know people working as delivery drivers for some other companies to earn some extra cash. Tax and whatever due will be paid. No illegal stuff done except for working for another company to earn some extra money. But i guess its against the RM policy.

GRS · Post by **GRS** » 09 Jun 2020, 19:04

Janet Brum wrote:The tax man will know plus if he has an accident with another parcel company van he will have to declare to his insurrer and RM.
Is best to find a job wich is not involving driving at all.

Odd comment!!! I doubt the tax man is gonna give two hoots if he’s working for RM and another courier company. As long he’s paying tax and NI HMRC couldn’t care less where he works.

matthew68 · Post by **matthew68** » 09 Jun 2020, 21:29

We have a young postie at our place for about a year now and he works 2 nights a week delivering pizzas which apparently is no problem

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 09 Jun 2020, 21:39

matthew68 wrote:We have a young postie at our place for about a year now and he works 2 nights a week delivering pizzas which apparently is no problem

I doubt that you could argue that pizza delivery is a direct competitor of Royal Mail unless you know something about the future direction of the business....

matthew68 · Post by **matthew68** » 09 Jun 2020, 21:46

Woody Guthrie wrote:
matthew68 wrote:We have a young postie at our place for about a year now and he works 2 nights a week delivering pizzas which apparently is no problem
I doubt that you could argue that pizza delivery is a direct competitor of Royal Mail unless you know something about the future direction of the business....

Nothing would surprise me anymore!

Janet Brum · Post by **Janet Brum** » 09 Jun 2020, 21:51

GRS wrote:
Janet Brum wrote:The tax man will know plus if he has an accident with another parcel company van he will have to declare to his insurrer and RM.
Is best to find a job wich is not involving driving at all.

Odd comment!!! I doubt the tax man is gonna give two hoots if he’s working for RM and another courier company. As long he’s paying tax and NI HMRC couldn’t care less where he works.

I don`t know what games are you playing, I have nothing with you or your posts but you seem to keep attacking me/stalking my posts, I wonder why?

I`m going to put you on ignore to solve the issue, have fun.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 09 Jun 2020, 22:07

GRS wrote:
Janet Brum wrote:The tax man will know plus if he has an accident with another parcel company van he will have to declare to his insurrer and RM.
Is best to find a job wich is not involving driving at all.

Odd comment!!! I doubt the tax man is gonna give two hoots if he’s working for RM and another courier company. As long he’s paying tax and NI HMRC couldn’t care less where he works.

If you have two legitimate jobs HMRC will inform both employers.
They have to in order to calculate aggregate earnings so that you are paying the correct Tax and National Insurance.

postman15 · Post by **postman15** » 09 Jun 2020, 22:43

Well I used to do another job for couple of years and paying the tax. 2nd job has the BR code. None of the employers ever asked me about other work. As per the previous post the HR dept might know about this but no one ever bothered to ask anything about a second job. Its just not for me..I knw few who are still working but no issues. Maybe as long as they pay the HMRC the proper tax should not be an issue. We all have famillies and need to feed them. 25 hours is not enough.. Anyways thanks again for all the responses,

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