Seniority

norris9 · Post by **norris9** » 13 Mar 2020, 00:59

Does everyone who works in a depot have a seniority position?

whether you are work at the calling counter, whether you work as a nightshift worker, whether you are a cleaner, whether you are a manager, whether you are on collections, whether you are a postie ??????

or is it just based on the Postmen/delivery drivers?

Zicomurphy · Post by **Zicomurphy** » 13 Mar 2020, 09:49

All OPG’s should be on the seniority list. Doesn’t matter if you do a delivery, a collection, work nights, work in RLE or work in callers office every OPG employed at that office should be on the same list. Cleaners would not be on it and the only way a manager should be on it is if they are “acting up” (when someone is still a OPG but has been trained to do managers work and is used as a line manager when needed by Royal Mail), although we haven’t had any acting up managers in our office for a few years so I don’t know if they still do that.

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 13 Mar 2020, 15:09

what if an opg took on a trainee manager role ? would he be able to drop back to opg if for instance managers were cut or has he lost his position in line ?

Zicomurphy · Post by **Zicomurphy** » 13 Mar 2020, 16:43

hero22 wrote:what if an opg took on a trainee manager role ? would he be able to drop back to opg if for instance managers were cut or has he lost his position in line ?

A couple of postmen in our office started as OPG’s and then became full time permanent managers for several years. Both eventually decided it wasn’t worth the hassle and come back to our office as OPG’s. Their seniority is based on original date of employment, so, no, they don’t lose their position.

Zicomurphy · Post by **Zicomurphy** » 13 Mar 2020, 17:21

hero22 wrote:what if an opg took on a trainee manager role ? would he be able to drop back to opg if for instance managers were cut or has he lost his position in line ?

Although I guess if they could return to being an OPG would depend on a vacancy being available which in the current climate is doubtful.

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 13 Mar 2020, 18:10

Zicomurphy wrote:
hero22 wrote:what if an opg took on a trainee manager role ? would he be able to drop back to opg if for instance managers were cut or has he lost his position in line ?
Although I guess if they could return to being an OPG would depend on a vacancy being available which in the current climate is doubtful.

Cheers, that's what I was sort of meaning, if they become a trainee manager obviously their length of service carries on, I was just wondering if they decided to go back to opg can they just do that or have to wait for an opening.

Post by **rainbowwarrior72** » 16 Mar 2020, 16:10

Whilst most OPG jobs are based on senority Specialised job duties are based on interview too ie Callers Office, Keys & Tabs and some others. Basically the old PHG roles. Most people moan about senority but its the only fair way to give duties even the managers privately admit this. I was told that senority came in the 19th century to guard against accusations of favouritism and unfairness. Tbh things haven't changed since. I have lost out on senority too but I have always accepted it as life

Acca Dacca · Post by **Acca Dacca** » 16 Mar 2020, 18:50

rainbowwarrior72 wrote:Whilst most OPG jobs are based on senority Specialised job duties are based on interview too ie Callers Office, Keys & Tabs and some others. Basically the old PHG roles. Most people moan about senority but its the only fair way to give duties even the managers privately admit this. I was told that senority came in the 19th century to guard against accusations of favouritism and unfairness. Tbh things haven't changed since. I have lost out on senority too but I have always accepted it as life

Posties used to bribe the managers for the best rounds in the 19th century