Managerial visits to explain RMs position.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 24 Feb 2020, 20:50

We had a manager visit us today to tell us RMs position on declining letters and the new parcel strategy etc. Mostly no new information apart from a couple of points:
1) Our parcels above shoe box size will be diverted to the nearest LAT hub which is about six miles away.
2) RM intends to do annual revisions and full resigns. I didn't know this one as I hadn't watched the latest Ricky film. Just another spanner in the works dressed up as 'fairness' but bound to cause further DO upset. Everyone generally hates resigns.
The manager is known by an unfavourable nickname and is generally avoided and not particularly liked so no questions were asked except for a stupid one about how large a shoe box is. If we had asked questions the manager admitted they had no further information. They did spout the company line about how the letters have dropped and how we don't have Sky magazines anymore. The obvious response is that we now have magazines to replace those by the barrowload including National Trust, RHS, Arts Society, Chiltern Society, at least six BBC magazines etc etc. In addition we have deliver to neighbour, safe place, age restricted and set customer, 2D barcodes, Tracked, vehicle idling restrictions, and the pressure and stress of being permanently tracked & watched by two sets of technology. I'm preaching to the converted here but in short any savings in time from lack of quantity of mail have been vastly overtaken by all the new delivery processes which take time to complete.
The manager didn't mention whether all the Tracked items are being diverted to the LAT hubs and none of us asked. It's likely they would not have the knowledge to answer that question either. I trust what Martin Walsh writes so can only assume that is the case. If it is not then the time discrepancy between not delivering maybe ten or twelve large parcels vs delivering to twenty percent more delivery points, with all those extra small packets/parcels, will be even wider and the task even more impossible to achieve.
This is what that firm of consultants, probably none of which having any knowledge of what we do, have brought down on our heads thanks to the parcel bias of a fat old German man.

???????????????? · Post by **????????????????** » 25 Feb 2020, 18:22

We had one of these talks today. Very informative and most of nus came away very happy.

Acca Dacca · Post by **Acca Dacca** » 25 Feb 2020, 19:18

???????????????? wrote:We had one of these talks today. Very informative and most of nus came away very happy.

Yeah but what did the posties think?

guardianangel · Post by **guardianangel** » 25 Feb 2020, 19:57

Celgar wrote:We had a manager visit us today to tell us RMs position on declining letters and the new parcel strategy etc. Mostly no new information apart from a couple of points:
1) Our parcels above shoe box size will be diverted to the nearest LAT hub which is about six miles away.
2) RM intends to do annual revisions and full resigns. I didn't know this one as I hadn't watched the latest Ricky film. Just another spanner in the works dressed up as 'fairness' but bound to cause further DO upset. Everyone generally hates resigns.
The manager is known by an unfavourable nickname and is generally avoided and not particularly liked so no questions were asked except for a stupid one about how large a shoe box is. If we had asked questions the manager admitted they had no further information. They did spout the company line about how the letters have dropped and how we don't have Sky magazines anymore. The obvious response is that we now have magazines to replace those by the barrowload including National Trust, RHS, Arts Society, Chiltern Society, at least six BBC magazines etc etc. In addition we have deliver to neighbour, safe place, age restricted and set customer, 2D barcodes, Tracked, vehicle idling restrictions, and the pressure and stress of being permanently tracked & watched by two sets of technology. I'm preaching to the converted here but in short any savings in time from lack of quantity of mail have been vastly overtaken by all the new delivery processes which take time to complete.
The manager didn't mention whether all the Tracked items are being diverted to the LAT hubs and none of us asked. It's likely they would not have the knowledge to answer that question either. I trust what Martin Walsh writes so can only assume that is the case. If it is not then the time discrepancy between not delivering maybe ten or twelve large parcels vs delivering to twenty percent more delivery points, with all those extra small packets/parcels, will be even wider and the task even more impossible to achieve.
This is what that firm of consultants, probably none of which having any knowledge of what we do, have brought down on our heads thanks to the parcel bias of a fat old German man.

Post by **General Mannerheim** » 25 Feb 2020, 20:26

???????????????? wrote:We had one of these talks today. Very informative and most of nus came away very happy.

Get to f**k.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 25 Feb 2020, 20:32

The manager also stated that most people do online banking so there are hardly any letters or statements being sent out by banks & building societies. In my experience this is incorrect and a fair percentage of the letters are still from banks & building societies although they probably mostly come via DSA.
The internet is notoriously insecure with millions of pounds lost to fraud annually much of it from bank accounts.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 25 Feb 2020, 20:33

General Mannerheim wrote:
???????????????? wrote:We had one of these talks today. Very informative and most of nus came away very happy.
Get to f**k.

That person is obviously a troll and best ignored.

Dannybuca · Post by **Dannybuca** » 25 Feb 2020, 20:37

Highlight of ours was being told about Rico being 'knackered' after going out on delivery in Fulham with his trolley.

toonshola · Post by **toonshola** » 25 Feb 2020, 21:30

We had ours yesterday. Well I say we, I mean the full timers got a briefing before us pond scum part timers arrived. Left out the loop as usual it’s a disgrace.

andybfc · Post by **andybfc** » 27 Feb 2020, 06:07

It's not a loop. It's propaganda. You missed nothing. Vote Yes.

crazyshrew · Post by **crazyshrew** » 27 Feb 2020, 10:57

We had a senior manager visit our DO on Monday. Among other things we were told categorically that there would be no forced job losses, everyone who is currently employed by the company will have one if they want one.
Just two days later it's announced that the local mail center will be cutting 100 jobs. Not agreed with the union.
Managers won't rule out compulsory redundancies.
They're not even trying to spin things any more. They're think we're too stupid to see the blatent lies

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 27 Feb 2020, 16:14

The manager didn't mention whether all the Tracked items are being diverted to the LAT hubs and none of us asked

I did and it's not all Tracked just those above shoebox size and LAT. Also they don't want to include rurals so they're looking at segregation solutions down to individual postcodes.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 27 Feb 2020, 16:40

???????????????? wrote:We had one of these talks today. Very informative and most of nus came away very happy.

Thanks to Celgar for his informative post, now your turn...the floor is yours.

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 27 Feb 2020, 19:24

Woody Guthrie wrote:
The manager didn't mention whether all the Tracked items are being diverted to the LAT hubs and none of us asked
I did and it's not all Tracked just those above shoebox size and LAT. Also they don't want to include rurals so they're looking at segregation solutions down to individual postcodes.

You're probably still going to get stuff through that's over shoebox size. Chances are that we won't have setups for large so whatever we get through in sleeves will just get sorted as small. The LAT hubs will get through a good few items that are small

ssdd · Post by **ssdd** » 27 Feb 2020, 20:11

Woody Guthrie wrote: Also they don't want to include rurals so they're looking at segregation solutions down to individual postcodes.

What does that mean; segregation solutions? Who's gonna do the LAT for a rural address? Or will rural duties be changed to a later start? Who'll do the 1pm specials?