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stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

you may remember my annual leave thread, well last Tuesday my DOM said he had to send me home, ive been home ever since and no contact has been made to me.


well today i got my payslip for this week saying at the top "unauthorised absence - no pay"
how can they class it as UNAUTHORISED when they sent me home? :hmmmm :arrrghhh :roll:
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Post by wolfie citizen smith »

you are not saying why your dom sent you home ?
stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

for returning 2 bags of mail

think they may sack me soon for 'wilful delay' but they should still give me some sort of pay while "investigating".
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Post by k979aaa »

stuartG81 wrote:for returning 2 bags of mail

think they may sack me soon for 'wilful delay' but they should still give me some sort of pay while "investigating".
he has suspended you you should have been told ether half /full but no pay seam's suspicious go find your rep now well soon tomorrow and do not delay for it is your money. :shock:
The Wee Man
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Post by The Wee Man »

This seems very strange. If in fact you have been suspended for wilful delay of the mail, it is normally with pay. Further to that, you also should have teceived a letter from the manager within the next 48 hours explaining the position, and also informing you that you will be soon invited to interview. No contact seems very strange to me?
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Post by stephen500 »

http://www.cwu.org/default.asp?Step=4&pid=125&catid=30
Royal Mail Conduct Code
11 PRECAUTIONARY SUSPENSION FROM DUTY
There are circumstances in which it is necessary to suspend an employee from duty. The main reasons to justify suspensions include:
· Suspected, alleged or admitted dishonesty
· Drunkenness/being under the influence of non-prescribed drugs
· Refusal to obey a reasonable instruction
· Violent or abusive behaviour
· Alleged wilful delay of the mail

In addition there may be other circumstances in which a serious breach of conduct will appear to have occurred and it is clearly in the interests of all concerned to remove the employee from duty. If an employee in his or her private capacity has been arrested, or charged with or convicted of a criminal offence, he or she may also be suspended where the circumstances warrant it. Where the individual has refused to carry out a reasonable instruction he/she should be given 5-10 minutes 'cooling off' time to reconsider his/her actions before being precautionarily suspended. The individual should be encouraged to see his/her local representative during this period when possible.

In normal circumstances suspension will only be carried out by a unit manager, such as a Shift Manager or Delivery Office Manager. Also POSIS can suspend employees on the authority of an appropriate manager. However, there are times when a manager other than the Unit Manager may have to act quickly, for example in cases of drunkenness or violent behaviour. Where possible the relevant senior manager will be consulted first, and in all cases suspension should be reported immediately to senior management - if necessary by telephone at home.

Suspension should only occur when it is necessary to prevent the risk of further breaches of conduct, to protect employees, property or mail, or to protect Royal Mail's good image and standing in the community. It should only last as long as is genuinely necessary and will be reviewed after 48 hours and at reasonable periods thereafter.

Precautionary suspension will normally be with pay but not so in cases of drunkenness, being under the influence of non-prescribed drugs, refusal to obey a reasonable instruction, violent or abusive behaviour and in cases of admitted dishonesty. In cases of suspension of employees facing criminal charges the initial suspension will be with pay. This will be reviewed after 48 hours and as information comes to notice a decision will be taken as to whether pay should continue. The decision as to whether pay should be stopped will only be made following careful consideration and consultation with Personnel.

On any occasion where pay is stopped notice will immediately be given in writing to the employee with a statement of the reasons for stopping pay. Where pay is stopped but it is subsequently decided that a discipline penalty is not warranted, the stopped pay should be restored.
It appears to me that as you have not received an immediate notice in writing with a statement for stopping pay that your manager is in breach of the conduct code.
Contact your rep first and if no luck after that your area delivery rep, then cwu hq if need be.
stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

just phoned my union rep

im getting a letter within the next couple of days about my suspension and ive to go in for an interview, my union rep will be there with me so fingers crossed he can do something about it.

also when i got my pay slip through yesterday phoned wages and they said i was "overpaid"

think they missed out "underworked" aswell :crazy: :left:
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Post by DGP1 »

Did you get your tax rebate??
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Post by dinho1 »

i got a £27 . 50 tax rebate i thought i was on a y .t .s wage when i saw that!!
stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Did you get your tax rebate??

your joking. right? :shock:
stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

not being paid again by RM this week :mad but finally getting my tax rebate of


£320 :nana :Very Happy :Very Happy

no letter either about when ive to go in for a meeting which is what i was told by my Union Rep last Friday :confused :hmmmm
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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

stuartG81 wrote:just phoned my union rep

im getting a letter within the next couple of days about my suspension and ive to go in for an interview, my union rep will be there with me so fingers crossed he can do something about it.

also when i got my pay slip through yesterday phoned wages and they said i was "overpaid"

think they missed out "underworked" aswell :crazy: :left:
All the best mate.
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stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
stuartG81 wrote:just phoned my union rep

im getting a letter within the next couple of days about my suspension and ive to go in for an interview, my union rep will be there with me so fingers crossed he can do something about it.

also when i got my pay slip through yesterday phoned wages and they said i was "overpaid"

think they missed out "underworked" aswell :crazy: :left:
All the best mate.
haven't even had said letter yet and its been a week now. :shock:
stuartG81
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Post by stuartG81 »

3 weeks later no letter yet :hmmmm anyone got an e-mail address for CWU hq please? :Very Happy :wink: