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POL PAY DEAL
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lovejoy
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POL PAY DEAL
Further to our recent meetings I am writing to formally confirm the details of the revised Crown Office pay offer as we discussed. This information is provided without prejudice to both parties and hopefully will form the basis of the pay deal.
Our proposal addresses the following grades in Post Office Ltd, represented by the CWU:
Deputy BMs
POs
RAs
CSAs
We have constructed a 3 year pay offer, which runs until March 31st 2010 which both meets our aspiration to move to one grade for Counter Colleagues and one grade for Retail Colleagues and removes the distinction between CSA and PO/RA grades but also means that those employees in the affected grades receive a consolidated pay increase in April 08 rather than having to wait until April 09 as originally planned. The next formal pay review after the changes outlined in this offer will be 1st April 2010
The introduction of the 35 hour week for provincial branches and the proposal to run with a nominal pensionable salary mitigates the impact of the marked time on both pay and pension in comparison with our previous offer.
I have outlined the key elements of the offer for each of the affected grades:
Postal Officers
• A lump sum payment of £1000 paid in lieu of a consolidated pay rise for 07/08. This payment will be pro rata for part time employees based on actual hours worked in the previous 12 months. The lump sum payment will be made as soon as possible after the pay ballot is concluded. If preferred colleagues can choose for this lump sum and the other lump sums on offer to be paid over a12 month period.
• Equalisation of London Weighting with RML with effect from 1st July 2007 and with any further increases necessary to maintain parity in the future.
• Reduction of the working week to 35 hours for provincial employees with effect from 7th January 08. You accept the principle that as much of the work as possible should be absorbed and this change will form part of a major rescheduling exercise to accommodate other changes within the branch network which we will work together to implement. This reduction is equivalent to an increase in the hourly rate of 2.86%. I can confirm that part time individuals will not have their contracted hours reduced to absorb the hour.
• Consolidated salary increase of 3.0% in April 08 resulting in a new pay rate for full time POs of £ 19 150. This increase will not flow through to the Saturday premium payment. London weighting will retain parity with Royal Mail Letters. The 3% increase will apply to all other allowances including the Scottish Islands Allowances. A lump sum payment of £95 in lieu of 0.5% pay increase, this payment will be pro rata for part time employees based on actual hours worked in the previous 12 months.
• A further lump sum payment of £1000 paid in April 09 in lieu of a consolidated pay rise for 09/10. This payment will be pro rata for part time employees based on actual hours worked in the previous 12 months.
• With effect from April 09 the creation of a “nominal salaryâ€
Our proposal addresses the following grades in Post Office Ltd, represented by the CWU:
Deputy BMs
POs
RAs
CSAs
We have constructed a 3 year pay offer, which runs until March 31st 2010 which both meets our aspiration to move to one grade for Counter Colleagues and one grade for Retail Colleagues and removes the distinction between CSA and PO/RA grades but also means that those employees in the affected grades receive a consolidated pay increase in April 08 rather than having to wait until April 09 as originally planned. The next formal pay review after the changes outlined in this offer will be 1st April 2010
The introduction of the 35 hour week for provincial branches and the proposal to run with a nominal pensionable salary mitigates the impact of the marked time on both pay and pension in comparison with our previous offer.
I have outlined the key elements of the offer for each of the affected grades:
Postal Officers
• A lump sum payment of £1000 paid in lieu of a consolidated pay rise for 07/08. This payment will be pro rata for part time employees based on actual hours worked in the previous 12 months. The lump sum payment will be made as soon as possible after the pay ballot is concluded. If preferred colleagues can choose for this lump sum and the other lump sums on offer to be paid over a12 month period.
• Equalisation of London Weighting with RML with effect from 1st July 2007 and with any further increases necessary to maintain parity in the future.
• Reduction of the working week to 35 hours for provincial employees with effect from 7th January 08. You accept the principle that as much of the work as possible should be absorbed and this change will form part of a major rescheduling exercise to accommodate other changes within the branch network which we will work together to implement. This reduction is equivalent to an increase in the hourly rate of 2.86%. I can confirm that part time individuals will not have their contracted hours reduced to absorb the hour.
• Consolidated salary increase of 3.0% in April 08 resulting in a new pay rate for full time POs of £ 19 150. This increase will not flow through to the Saturday premium payment. London weighting will retain parity with Royal Mail Letters. The 3% increase will apply to all other allowances including the Scottish Islands Allowances. A lump sum payment of £95 in lieu of 0.5% pay increase, this payment will be pro rata for part time employees based on actual hours worked in the previous 12 months.
• A further lump sum payment of £1000 paid in April 09 in lieu of a consolidated pay rise for 09/10. This payment will be pro rata for part time employees based on actual hours worked in the previous 12 months.
• With effect from April 09 the creation of a “nominal salaryâ€
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PostfromNotts
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lovejoy
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PostfromNotts
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lovejoy
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Flexibilitybillyhayes wrote:If I've read the pay deal right, if you are a CSA on any other grade than CSA6, this means no pay rise between april '07 and april '08?
Also, what do they mean by "You accept the principle that as much of the work as possible should be absorbed and this change will form part of a major rescheduling exercise to accommodate other changes within the branch network"
Can someone clarify...
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PostfromNotts
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Reel him in yet again!!lovejoy wrote:what does your wife think of you?PostfromNotts wrote:lovejoy wrote:grow up mate just posting it for interest of pol colleaguesPostfromNotts wrote:What do you want? A trumpet to blow?
Reel him in!!
Unacceptable - please do not troll even if you are a member.
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kill Joy
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Dont know about his wife but I bet he drinks alone!lovejoy wrote:what does your wife think of you?PostfromNotts wrote:lovejoy wrote:grow up mate just posting it for interest of pol colleaguesPostfromNotts wrote:What do you want? A trumpet to blow?
Reel him in!!
I've been away for a few days and my contact has gone to ground does anyone know how the executive voted on the POL deal and was there any decent from anyone including officers
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lovejoy
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No i wanted to know what your wife thought of you?PostfromNotts wrote:Reel him in yet again!!lovejoy wrote:what does your wife think of you?PostfromNotts wrote:lovejoy wrote:grow up mate just posting it for interest of pol colleaguesPostfromNotts wrote:What do you want? A trumpet to blow?
Reel him in!!
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lovejoy
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don't know the exact voting but it went through with no problems i hear and HQ / reps are confident that there will be big yes vote from memberskill Joy wrote:Dont know about his wife but I bet he drinks alone!lovejoy wrote:what does your wife think of you?PostfromNotts wrote:lovejoy wrote:grow up mate just posting it for interest of pol colleaguesPostfromNotts wrote:What do you want? A trumpet to blow?
Reel him in!!
I've been away for a few days and my contact has gone to ground does anyone know how the executive voted on the POL deal and was there any decent from anyone including officers
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TrueBlueTerrier
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We do have a Post Office Counters manager on here somewhere I am sure he will spot your question and post a reply. But might be worth starting a new thread in "Post Office Forum" - In fact I'll do it for you.billyhayes wrote:I'll ask again, does this mean no pay rise for CSA grades other than CSA6 for period '07 to '08?
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kill Joy
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lovejoy
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Not got too much knowledge of document but i know it went through PEC with ease and is widely expected to be accepted by most POL memberskill Joy wrote:These guys and gals in POL took some serious action along with the rest of us. Does anyone out there have a view on whether this deal is good or not and did it get the full support of HQ? Or is it a question of the deal being to complicated or does no one care!!!!!
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kill Joy
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Thanks lovejoy. You've previously been good enough to provide this info. I was hopeful that someone else a little closer to it out there would enlighten us.lovejoy wrote:Not got too much knowledge of document but i know it went through PEC with ease and is widely expected to be accepted by most POL memberskill Joy wrote:These guys and gals in POL took some serious action along with the rest of us. Does anyone out there have a view on whether this deal is good or not and did it get the full support of HQ? Or is it a question of the deal being to complicated or does no one care!!!!!
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POSTMAN
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I'll move it to the PO Forum,one of them in there will pick up on it no doubt.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.