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rogersh
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Post by rogersh »

In answering the post "part timers made up to full time hours over christmas? " it was interesting to note recognition of a new tier of employee -
e.g. "less than full-time" I assume this would be employees on 35 hours.
However I know for a fact that contracts given to those employed at our RDC on 35 hours have a contract stating full- time. (Originally they were given 35 hour part-time contracts - the contract wording was changed after complaint)


Edited from the four pillars;

13. Shorter Working Week
"In the context of our shared vision to achieve the 35 hour working week it is agreed our joint commitment is that this will be completed by 2022, and before that date where further reductions are agreed in connection with technological and operation change and pay reviews

New full time employees from October 2018, recruited either from existing employees or new recruits in the core OPG grade, will be on a 35 hour week ......... This will be adjusted as we progress through the SWW flightpath."

If the flightpath has been diverted perhaps the 35 hour (full-time but less than full-time) contracts should be reviewed.
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Post by Ali831 »

Been in the job a few months. The vacancy was advertised as 35 hr part time role and my contract says the same. The exact wording under employment says 'part time occupation.'
rogersh
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Post by rogersh »

Ali831 wrote:Been in the job a few months. The vacancy was advertised as 35 hr part time role and my contract says the same. The exact wording under employment says 'part time occupation.'
Interesting, The four pillars is clear when it says that "New full time employees from October 2018, recruited either from existing employees or new recruits in the core OPG grade, will be on a 35 hour week"
The intention that when the flightpath is reached in 2022 that all Full-timers will be on 35 hours.

Your example shows what happened originally at our RDC, when employees were given contracts worded as 35 hour part-time instead of full-time, the difference being that the vacancy was advertised as 35hrs part-time.

This appears a clear contradiction because if employees did eventually achieve a 35 hr week would that mean you were still part-time?

Edit - Have seen this advertisement for a job which clearly states Full time 35 hours! (although says Work part-time hours between the hours of 9:30 and 16:30)

Full time Delivery Postman / Postwoman with Driving

Job reference: 110206

Location: Cambridge Delivery Office CB1 7QQ

Contract: Permanent

Hours: 35 hours, between 9:30 and 16:30 , 5 days per week (Monday – Saturday)

About the role

From scorching summer days to the depths of winter, our postmen and postwomen play a vital role, delivering the mail..... Here, you will:
• Work part-time hours between the hours of 9:30 and 16:30......

Further edits;
Full time Delivery Postman / Postwoman with Driving
Job reference: 114122
Location: Killin Delivery Office FK21 8UH
Contract: Permanent
Hours: 35:00 hours, between 8:30 and 16:00 , Monday to Saturday (Five weeks on one week off)

Postman/Postwoman with Driving - Hadleigh Delivery Office, IP7 5AA
Royal MailHadleigh, GB
1 month ago Be among the first 25 applicants
No longer accepting applications
Full time Delivery Postman / Postwoman with Driving
Job reference: 113485
Location: Hadleigh Delivery Office IP7 5AA
Contract: Permanent
Hours: 35:00 hours, between 0715 and 1500 , 5 days per week Monday to Saturday
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Post by Grumpyoldmailman »

I thought they just paid the difference between the 35 (new full time contracts) and actual full time hours in overtime. You must have just found one that is actually part time and they don’t make the hours up.
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Post by NewPostieUK »

rogersh wrote:
Edited from the four pillars;

13. Shorter Working Week

.
Depending on your view, what you read / who you listen to. .. .

The four Pillars was

Worthless
Unagreed
agreed then ignored
etc

Unless we win this fight and get the four pillars properly recognised, and/or get other agreements in place, then the Four pillars content is meaningless.