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Made b&H complaint - now being conducted after threats from manager!

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burton76
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Made b&H complaint - now being conducted after threats from manager!

Post by burton76 »

I am a woman collection driver. I made a complaint to HR about my manager bullying me. He lent over me pointing in my face and in a threatening manner demanded I come to his office in the morning, even though I don't work mornings. This is because I left at my scheduled leaving time. 7pm. I am a carer and although I work for free for 30 minutes to get my Saturday round done, I can't stay late in the evening. They know this.
He would never threaten a bloke on the same way! He constatnly hangs around the union rep like a lovestruck teenager while he is emptying his van.

Last year, I didn;t get paid properly for 4 and a half months when I began a new round for more hours. They also wouldn't give me a written contract and I had to fight for 6 months to get it. I approached the union for help and got sniggered at so am no longer in it.

At Christmas, even though I did more o/t than anyone else, a manager demanded I did back to back rounds, driving for 7 hours - after already working about 150 hours, every single day, for three weeks. When I asked about getting a break he sent me home!

They don't seem to abide by any employment laws and come across as dinosaurs.

The b&h procedure has been going on for 2 weeks then I suddenly got a letter saying it would no lonbger be dealt with as it is a conduct issue! When Irang HR they had no more info than that! I have spoken to my area manager and the investigating manager and sent a sick note in for stress as I felt genuienly threatened by this man. After 2 weeks they have decided it's a conduct issue without informing me!

They are a joke.
burton76
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Made b&H complaint - now being conducted after threats from manager!

Post by burton76 »

I should've said. The next day, I put my feelings in writing to the manager who'd threatened me and requested they follow procedure regarding having time to prepare and to arrange for a colleague to come with you to a discussion whether formal or informal - if you're accused of something. He got right up in my face and wouldn't let me ask someone. He just kept demanding I go in the office with him. I then videoed this on my phone as I felt so threatened. I told him that is why I was doing it. I had already accused him of b&H in the letter and he kept demanding I go into the office with him alone!

I won't be going back to that shithole.
Celgar
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Post by Celgar »

Your manager definitely needs the sack.
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burton76
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Post by burton76 »

Thanks - I agree. Unfortunately, I reckon that's what they plan to do to me. I've already involved a solicitor - they said it is sex discrimination.
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burton76
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Post by burton76 »

Thank you.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

As much as he deserves taken down a peg or two and his behaviour has been completely unacceptable - what has he done that is sexist or discriminatory based on you being a female? Can you prove he wouldnt treat a male colleague the same way? Has he made comments referencing your sex?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
burton76
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Post by burton76 »

You should research what it means perhaps?
burton76
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Post by burton76 »

The onus isn't on me. He would have to prove he has made threats against a male.
Yamr1
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Post by Yamr1 »

Why cant we go to our work with none of this s**t happen.


Its turning out to be a joke now on a daily basis
Celgar
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Post by Celgar »

Some people are just unemployable. We had one postie at our DO who was a real bully. He probably didn't think me capable but I nearly ended that f*****. I have a history of being bullied but I won't take it forever. I hope you manage to get that manager moved to another office at the very least.
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burton76
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Post by burton76 »

Thanks. I honestly think RM has a bullying culture. When the manager asked me to drive 7 hours no break - I put in a grievance and HR - rejected it! As in, did not deal with it and they told my area manager to let me know they had no problem with it becuase I was asked a reasonable request on o/t and didn't do it! (I obviously have evidence of this)


Also, it was HR who repeatedly ignired written requests for a written contract (these are basic employmetn rights) - and I also informed them my managers wouldn't do anything about me not getting paid properly and they wouldn't help! All of this is highly illegal and I have evidence of all of it.


We get forced to drive overloaded vans which is dangerous to us and the public. The vans themselves are rarely for for purpose. If you PMT a van they stamp it saying the problem has been fixed and it is the same! This has happened with a drivers seat not secured properly - twice! My colleague reported a bald tyre, and I mean bald, and they said they'd fixed it and was identical! It's the whole bloody company!
Denman17
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Post by Denman17 »

Celgar wrote:Some people are just unemployable. We had one postie at our DO who was a real bully. He probably didn't think me capable but I nearly ended that f*****. I have a history of being bullied but I won't take it forever. I hope you manage to get that manager moved to another office at the very least.
Sorry why would you want this DOM moved to inflict more misery in another office .
Brandy
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Post by Brandy »

I just cannot get my head round why RM management have to bully and intimidate staff,do they honestly think they get the best out of their workforce by this behaviour. A happy workforce is a productive workforce,not one that is screwed down.
I loved most of my years being a postie,but what sticks most in my mind is the last couple of years,when management bullying and intimidation gradually just got worse. I see nothing has changed!! RM YOU SHOULD BE BLOODY ASHAMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :no no :no no :no no :no no :no no :no no :no no
Yamr1
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Made b&H complaint - now being conducted after threats from manager!

Post by Yamr1 »

HR
Need a major shake up as well

Think they get treated like that in head office

Don't think so