Elections

heraldmoth · Post by **heraldmoth** » 26 Mar 2019, 17:56

Our unit have local elections due in may and the literature is due throughout April, all party postings will come addressed and we have 3 days to deliver each party, we have been told no overtime will be payed on any of these 3 day periods, regardless of mail volumes or if you deliver all material in 1 day. Thoughts anyone?

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:03

heraldmoth wrote:Our unit have local elections due in may and the literature is due throughout April, all party postings will come addressed and we have 3 days to deliver each party, we have been told no overtime will be payed on any of these 3 day periods, regardless of mail volumes or if you deliver all material in 1 day. Thoughts anyone?

simple , just finish on your time and then its there problem if they don't want to pay o/t ,I bet that will soon change and remember you don't work for a charity , they try this all the time with any election shite .

arnold cheshire · Post by **arnold cheshire** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:03

heraldmoth wrote:Our unit have local elections due in may and the literature is due throughout April, all party postings will come addressed and we have 3 days to deliver each party, we have been told no overtime will be payed on any of these 3 day periods, regardless of mail volumes or if you deliver all material in 1 day. Thoughts anyone?

These leaflets are normally not done by RM in our area

heraldmoth · Post by **heraldmoth** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:14

Problem is we have no union Rep and no one wants to be black balled for cutting off, as far as I was aware if the mail volume warranted overtime you could claim regardless of election material

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:18

heraldmoth wrote:Problem is we have no union Rep and no one wants to be black balled for cutting off, as far as I was aware if the mail volume warranted overtime you could claim regardless of election material

contact your area rep and tell him/her what the dims plan is , and stick together and don't allow this to happen . this makes my piss boil and who do they think they are

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heraldmoth · Post by **heraldmoth** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:20

The worry is the election window is 4 weeks and with 8 candidates if the postings are staggered we could end up with a month of no overtime

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:28

heraldmoth wrote:The worry is the election window is 4 weeks and with 8 candidates if the postings are staggered we could end up with a month of no overtime

you in the cwu ? like I said ring area rep there full release and tell him /her that's going on as thats what they are there for , and if there not interested contact HQ and tell them , you pay your money so you want there support .

heraldmoth · Post by **heraldmoth** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:36

I would say 90 percent are payed up members

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 26 Mar 2019, 18:45

heraldmoth wrote:I would say 90 percent are payed up members

good so get on the phone and ring area tomorrow, and put a stop to all this bullshit before it starts ,

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 26 Mar 2019, 19:28

heraldmoth wrote:Our unit have local elections due in may and the literature is due throughout April, all party postings will come addressed and we have 3 days to deliver each party, we have been told no overtime will be payed on any of these 3 day periods, regardless of mail volumes or if you deliver all material in 1 day. Thoughts anyone?

Unless they're something that can't go through a machine, it's possible that they could be run on a machine and be in with your sequenced mail

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 26 Mar 2019, 19:52

SpacePhoenix wrote:
heraldmoth wrote:Our unit have local elections due in may and the literature is due throughout April, all party postings will come addressed and we have 3 days to deliver each party, we have been told no overtime will be payed on any of these 3 day periods, regardless of mail volumes or if you deliver all material in 1 day. Thoughts anyone?
Unless they're something that can't go through a machine, it's possible that they could be run on a machine and be in with your sequenced mail

yes , but it doesn't matter if they go through the machine or not these things still need delivering , the dim has told them that no excess will be paid for delivering these regardless , now that's not right .

heraldmoth · Post by **heraldmoth** » 26 Mar 2019, 20:00

The payment is 5.6 pence per item, but the no overtime clause gives them carte blanche to roll out as much mail as possible during this period knowing we can't claim ivertime

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 26 Mar 2019, 20:26

heraldmoth wrote:The payment is 5.6 pence per item, but the no overtime clause gives them carte blanche to roll out as much mail as possible during this period knowing we can't claim ivertime

are these polling cards ? or just letters ? . so your area rep as agreed to this payment then so be it , you cant claim o/t then , your lucky in our area you get 3p per item and that is to prep and deliver the s**t . it should be a national .

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 26 Mar 2019, 20:30

worktotime wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
heraldmoth wrote:Our unit have local elections due in may and the literature is due throughout April, all party postings will come addressed and we have 3 days to deliver each party, we have been told no overtime will be payed on any of these 3 day periods, regardless of mail volumes or if you deliver all material in 1 day. Thoughts anyone?
Unless they're something that can't go through a machine, it's possible that they could be run on a machine and be in with your sequenced mail
yes , but it doesn't matter if they go through the machine or not these things still need delivering , the dim has told them that no excess will be paid for delivering these regardless , now that's not right .

Poll cards can't go through a CSS anyway, a CSS will read them ok on a 1st pass but would then reject most of them on the second pass

ninja · Post by **ninja** » 26 Mar 2019, 20:31

See attached agreement point 3.

States:
The impact of delivering this letter traffic will be excluded from normal workload calculations.

Therefore you can get overtime payments for your day mail if required.

In practice we would prep the daily workload and if required agree an extended payment.We then prep the election material into the frame.

There is no agreement to work beyond your time to deliver election material.