New full time contracts

[stoneybroke]

Hope someone can clear this up.
Our office is undergoing a review at the moment and they are talking about taking a couple of walks out of the office. To offset this they are making 4 of us part-timers, up to full-time.
Will we be made up to the hours that full-timers are on at the moment i.e. 38 hours?
Rumours are that we will only be offered 35 hours, but if this happens we will then be van sharing with an original full-timer on 38 hours.
Any idea if this is right?
Thanks for any replies.

[hero22]

Some of us got made full time just before Christmas and we’re given 35 hours. Still van share with a guy on 38. Just extra is overtime.

[zipmeister]

Joint statement regarding full time contracts attached.

[stoneybroke]

OK. Thanks for the replies chaps.
So in October, if the full-timers go onto a 37 hr week, would i (being on a 35 hr contract) get a rise in my hourly rate to compensate?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

OK. Thanks for the replies chaps.
So in October, if the full-timers go onto a 37 hr week, would i (being on a 35 hr contract) get a rise in my hourly rate to compensate?

Yes. In fact we all get an increase in the hourly rate, even FTs

[rambo1]

OK. Thanks for the replies chaps.
So in October, if the full-timers go onto a 37 hr week, would i (being on a 35 hr contract) get a rise in my hourly rate to compensate?

Yes. In fact we all get an increase in the hourly rate, even FTs

As I've said before though, pt still get their I creased rate when on leave, full time don't.

[The Postman]

OK. Thanks for the replies chaps.
So in October, if the full-timers go onto a 37 hr week, would i (being on a 35 hr contract) get a rise in my hourly rate to compensate?

Yes. In fact we all get an increase in the hourly rate, even FTs

As I've said before though, pt still get their I creased rate when on leave, full time don't.

Yes, they do. They get the same rate whether they’re at work or not. Same as the part timers.

[rogersh]

OK. Thanks for the replies chaps.
So in October, if the full-timers go onto a 37 hr week, would i (being on a 35 hr contract) get a rise in my hourly rate to compensate?

Yes. In fact we all get an increase in the hourly rate, even FTs

As I've said before though, pt still get their I creased rate when on leave, full time don't.

I posted this example in the union room.
The hourly rate went up for part- timers as a consequence of the hour reduction. Hourly rate increased for f/t & p/t

Example pay rate £434.06 (did not change) divide by 39 = £11.13 per hour - Divide by 38 = £11.42 p/h

Part -timer working 20 hours (before increase in Hourly rate) would have basic pay of £222.59 then increased to £228.45 p/w from October 2018.

[Chalky13]

Re: OP

I was offered a FT contract and “started” it in September last year. It still isn’t through properly and I’m working 38hrs, being paid 30 + 8 as overtime and the supplements are at 30hr rates.

The system via our DOM and area manager is a joke with promise after promise broken.

I’ve told them as I’ve been through the grievance procedure about it, I’m now handing everything to ACAS to sort. The union isn’t helping either.

[rogersh]

Re: OP

I was offered a FT contract and “started” it in September last year. It still isn’t through properly and I’m working 38hrs, being paid 30 + 8 as overtime and the supplements are at 30hr rates.

The system via our DOM and area manager is a joke with promise after promise broken.

I’ve told them as I’ve been through the grievance procedure about it, I’m now handing everything to ACAS to sort. The union isn’t helping either.

So chalky the 38 contract you & your colleagues were promised to receive 2 weeks ago has not materialised.

[Chalky13]

Nope, and now the area DOM says it’s likely to happen in the revision during Feb/mar

I’ve told the area union rep that’s too late and I’m going to acas

[Chalky13]

Myself and several others have said we should’ve gone out on strike by now, but it seems the majority of the staff are alright jacks, so unless it impacts them, they mouth off but don’t action it

Same with the union rep. As it doesn’t affect everyone, he’s not massively interested it seems.

I grew up as a child learning that a union protects and supports every member, whether it’s affecting 1 or 1000.

[rogersh]

Myself and several others have said we should’ve gone out on strike by now, but it seems the majority of the staff are alright jacks, so unless it impacts them, they mouth off but don’t action it

Same with the union rep. As it doesn’t affect everyone, he’s not massively interested it seems.

I grew up as a child learning that a union protects and supports every member, whether it’s affecting 1 or 1000.

I have had a few instances where I have had no option but to contact the CEO (Moya Greene & Sue Whalley) via justsayit re H&S issues having exhausted the procedure by line management. I also "caught out" the area rep in writing & receiving a response via Davie Robertson (now CWU national officer) who contradicted what the Area rep had written on the union board.

You can contact Rico Back via Justsayit@royalmail.com with any questions or ideas. At least you will receive a response & in my experience your office will be informed of your enquiry. You could ask why the agreements with part-timers not being honoured as stated in the Front line Managers Briefing Pack;

We will honour our agreements regarding part-time colleagues:
• Part-time colleagues’ contracted hours will be jointly reviewed every March and September. Where appropriate, increased contracted hours will be offered to reflect the hours actually worked and planned.

[Chalky13]

Myself and several others have said we should’ve gone out on strike by now, but it seems the majority of the staff are alright jacks, so unless it impacts them, they mouth off but don’t action it

Same with the union rep. As it doesn’t affect everyone, he’s not massively interested it seems.

I grew up as a child learning that a union protects and supports every member, whether it’s affecting 1 or 1000.

I have had a few instances where I have had no option but to contact the CEO (Moya Greene & Sue Whalley) via justsayit re H&S issues having exhausted the procedure by line management. I also "caught out" the area rep in writing & receiving a response via Davie Robertson (now CWU national officer) who contradicted what the Area rep had written on the union board.

You can contact Rico Back via Justsayit@royalmail.com with any questions or ideas. At least you will receive a response & in my experience your office will be informed of your enquiry. You could ask why the agreements with part-timers not being honoured as stated in the Front line Managers Briefing Pack;

We will honour our agreements regarding part-time colleagues:
• Part-time colleagues’ contracted hours will be jointly reviewed every March and September. Where appropriate, increased contracted hours will be offered to reflect the hours actually worked and planned.

Thank you!

[rambo1]

OK. Thanks for the replies chaps.
So in October, if the full-timers go onto a 37 hr week, would i (being on a 35 hr contract) get a rise in my hourly rate to compensate?

Yes. In fact we all get an increase in the hourly rate, even FTs

As I've said before though, pt still get their I creased rate when on leave, full time don't.

Yes, they do. They get the same rate whether they’re at work or not. Same as the part timers.

When I'm on holiday, I get paid same amount as I did before sww. When someone on 32hrs is on holiday, they get paid more than they did before sww! How can you not get it?