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Hi. We are planning a wedding in 2021,I know its a couple of years away but the day will fall on a saturday and then we need the following week off as annual leave for our honeymoon.
My manager is pretty reasonable so what are the steps for getting time off and guaranteeing these days? Should I ask him to put this in writing for me? I want to see him about it soon.
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Text him it
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postiewhite wrote:Hi. We are planning a wedding in 2021,I know its a couple of years away but the day will fall on a saturday and then we need the following week off as annual leave for our honeymoon.
My manager is pretty reasonable so what are the steps for getting time off and guaranteeing these days? Should I ask him to put this in writing for me? I want to see him about it soon.
How is your leave picked?
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Its on seniority. Im in the last section. Dont tell me RM will make this difficult and not guaranteed with 2yrs notice.??
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Ours is senior to junior then next year junior to senior
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In our office summer holidays are senior to junior then winter holidays are opposite way
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Post by clashcityrocker »

The first thing you do when allocating annual leave is see if there are any special requests, for things like weddings.
So yes, make the request in writing. Make sure you get a response in writing. (If it isn't granted use the grievance procedure.)
Keep hold of it because undoubtedly he won't still be the DOM in 2 years and nobody will have any details about your request.
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97gaz wrote:
postiewhite wrote:Its on seniority. Im in the last section. Dont tell me RM will make this difficult and not guaranteed with 2yrs notice.??
Seniority can't be used for allocating annual leave. It was stopped some time ago. It's grossly unfair.

You are indeed correct and using it for such could be classed as discrimination. Seniority to pick annual leave is against the national agreement.

Agreements on Annual Leave: “all employees will be included on an equal basis”.
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number one wrote:
97gaz wrote:
postiewhite wrote:Its on seniority. Im in the last section. Dont tell me RM will make this difficult and not guaranteed with 2yrs notice.??
Seniority can't be used for allocating annual leave. It was stopped some time ago. It's grossly unfair.

You are indeed correct and using it for such could be classed as discrimination. Seniority to pick annual leave is against the national agreement.

Agreements on Annual Leave: “all employees will be included on an equal basis”.
What they can do is say you've 40 full timers in your office, split them up intro groups, so the top 10 in the seniority list go into group 1, the next 10 into group 2, etc. The first year group 1 gets 1st pick. The next year group 1 goes to the back and group 2 gets first pick and so on
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
number one wrote:
97gaz wrote:
postiewhite wrote:Its on seniority. Im in the last section. Dont tell me RM will make this difficult and not guaranteed with 2yrs notice.??
Seniority can't be used for allocating annual leave. It was stopped some time ago. It's grossly unfair.

You are indeed correct and using it for such could be classed as discrimination. Seniority to pick annual leave is against the national agreement.

Agreements on Annual Leave: “all employees will be included on an equal basis”.
What they can do is say you've 40 full timers in your office, split them up intro groups, so the top 10 in the seniority list go into group 1, the next 10 into group 2, etc. The first year group 1 gets 1st pick. The next year group 1 goes to the back and group 2 gets first pick and so on
That’s just totally wrong and unfair. The only split should be between full time and part time. This is so you don’t have too many full time staff off at the same time. Each week should have a “leave ceiling” so you can only have a certain number of staff off in any given week and this may be split down for example:

Leave ceiling 9
4 Full time
5 part time

This ceiling changes through the year going off previous traffic data. Some weeks it might show you can have 11 people off some might be 7
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number one wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
number one wrote:
97gaz wrote:
postiewhite wrote:Its on seniority. Im in the last section. Dont tell me RM will make this difficult and not guaranteed with 2yrs notice.??
Seniority can't be used for allocating annual leave. It was stopped some time ago. It's grossly unfair.

You are indeed correct and using it for such could be classed as discrimination. Seniority to pick annual leave is against the national agreement.

Agreements on Annual Leave: “all employees will be included on an equal basis”.
What they can do is say you've 40 full timers in your office, split them up intro groups, so the top 10 in the seniority list go into group 1, the next 10 into group 2, etc. The first year group 1 gets 1st pick. The next year group 1 goes to the back and group 2 gets first pick and so on
That’s just totally wrong and unfair. The only split should be between full time and part time. This is so you don’t have too many full time staff off at the same time. Each week should have a “leave ceiling” so you can only have a certain number of staff off in any given week and this may be split down for example:

Leave ceiling 9
4 Full time
5 part time

This ceiling changes through the year going off previous traffic data. Some weeks it might show you can have 11 people off some might be 7
Doesn't really work, leave is done in hours so you could end up with (if part-timers are for example 4hrs per day) 2 part timers of instead of 1 full timer so you could say the leave ceiling is 8 people, if maxed out you could end up with anywhere between 8 and 16 people off
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Post by number one »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
number one wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:
number one wrote:
97gaz wrote:
postiewhite wrote:Its on seniority. Im in the last section. Dont tell me RM will make this difficult and not guaranteed with 2yrs notice.??
Seniority can't be used for allocating annual leave. It was stopped some time ago. It's grossly unfair.

You are indeed correct and using it for such could be classed as discrimination. Seniority to pick annual leave is against the national agreement.

Agreements on Annual Leave: “all employees will be included on an equal basis”.
What they can do is say you've 40 full timers in your office, split them up intro groups, so the top 10 in the seniority list go into group 1, the next 10 into group 2, etc. The first year group 1 gets 1st pick. The next year group 1 goes to the back and group 2 gets first pick and so on
That’s just totally wrong and unfair. The only split should be between full time and part time. This is so you don’t have too many full time staff off at the same time. Each week should have a “leave ceiling” so you can only have a certain number of staff off in any given week and this may be split down for example:

Leave ceiling 9
4 Full time
5 part time

This ceiling changes through the year going off previous traffic data. Some weeks it might show you can have 11 people off some might be 7
Doesn't really work, leave is done in hours so you could end up with (if part-timers are for example 4hrs per day) 2 part timers of instead of 1 full timer so you could say the leave ceiling is 8 people, if maxed out you could end up with anywhere between 8 and 16 people off
Eh??

It does work, I do the leave.
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Leave ceilings are also done in hours
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SpacePhoenix wrote:Leave ceilings are also done in hours
Just don’t understand how you’re getting at you may have 16 people off