D2d etiquette

[Killoffs]

What's the etiquette for putting d2d's in the frame, for those of you not in an DO that has a clear frame policy?

For example, is it bad form to put your whole weeks leaflets in the frame when you finish delivering on Monday, knowing that Tuesday is your day off?

Or, putting all your d2d's in for the week EXCEPT for the day you have off, therefore leaving it to your cover man?

Would it bother you? Does it even matter? Who cares?

[DGH]

As with most things, just be honest. Do whatever you'd do if you were on the walk for 6 days straight. Too many people don't do this and it causes unnecessary ill-feeling.

[Sir Henry]

Don't expect any cover to do more than a sixth or a fifth if it's been a bank holiday Monday and you won't go wrong (even then it's a bit iffy) In my experience unless you have a regular day off cover, covers are happy to do no d2d on a Saturday but are less than enthusiastic about doing the extra needed to enable d2d free Saturdays.

We witnessed a right strop from one old hand who put 300 d2ds in the frame for his day off cover to do on Tuesday and was greatly distressed when said cover did 1/6th and left the rest. (I do that many on a Tuesday came the wail, I am not your regular cover guy therefore don't benefit from doing 300'd2d and ruining a Tusday came the reply)

[redneck]

The only thing consistent with D2D's is the clearing of frames by the end of the week as far as the goons are concerned. How this is done, well managers don't give one about that, and consequently many do not go where they are supposed to. People I work with also don't deliver them if they are in the mail without a letter, so if you attempt to actually deliver the sixth a day as well, you will be longer on the loop than he/she as they don't do a similar amount of time on their loop, skipping D2D only calls. The multiple D2D's are then left in the bag for someone else to get rid of! I would estimate up to 20% of door to doors don't actually reach their destination in my office for one reason or another. Crap service and all down to crap management.

[Postie45]

For example, is it bad form to put your whole weeks leaflets in the frame when you finish delivering on Monday, knowing that Tuesday is your day off?

yes this is a total dick move. If was a cover id glady pull all but Tuesdays out before i started prepping.

Or, putting all your d2d's in for the week EXCEPT for the day you have off, therefore leaving it to your cover man?

even worse, theyd all come out before my prep.

How hard is it to just do that days allocation ? its part of the workload and should be prepped and delivered that day, sure if you have time at the end of the delivery to prep for next day you can, but not just to make it hard for the cover guy as your examples seem to show.

[Celgar]

What's the etiquette for putting d2d's in the frame, for those of you not in an DO that has a clear frame policy?

For example, is it bad form to put your whole weeks leaflets in the frame when you finish delivering on Monday, knowing that Tuesday is your day off?

Or, putting all your d2d's in for the week EXCEPT for the day you have off, therefore leaving it to your cover man?

Would it bother you? Does it even matter? Who cares?

It's obviously bad form to prep D2D into the frame if you are off the following day.

It's understandable if a postie expects a cover postie to do a vertical column of D2Ds on their walk on their day off especially if it is not Saturday. We all get paid to do the same job after all. I have seen big blow-ups over this issue in our DO. I generally prep and deliver all the D2Ds on my walk every week except if my day off falls on a Monday. Then I sort of expect the cover to do a vertical column. Its not a big deal though so if doesn't happen I don't personally throw my rattle out of the pram.

[Xr4]

If you're only taking where you're going, then there's no problem in filling the frame. The day off cover should be happy that he doesn't have to put any in and just take where he's going.
In my office if it's a clear frame put 11/2 collems in, if it's a take where you're going put 2 in.
It's up to the duty holder to which one we do and there's never any arguments.

[LaggyBand]

If you're only taking where you're going, then there's no problem in filling the frame. The day off cover should be happy that he doesn't have to put any in and just take where he's going.
In my office if it's a clear frame put 11/2 collems in, if it's a take where you're going put 2 in.
It's up to the duty holder to which one we do and there's never any arguments.

You must be lucky and have all single slots, else how does it work?

[Xr4]

If you're only taking where you're going, then there's no problem in filling the frame. The day off cover should be happy that he doesn't have to put any in and just take where he's going.
In my office if it's a clear frame put 11/2 collems in, if it's a take where you're going put 2 in.
It's up to the duty holder to which one we do and there's never any arguments.

You must be lucky and have all single slots, else how does it work?

The bits with double slots you take both if you have mail for one of them, just write a number on if you need to.

This is all going to change when the new double slot big frames that have 2 rounds come next year, then it'll be take it all out with you.

[Celgar]

If you're only taking where you're going, then there's no problem in filling the frame. The day off cover should be happy that he doesn't have to put any in and just take where he's going.
In my office if it's a clear frame put 11/2 collems in, if it's a take where you're going put 2 in.
It's up to the duty holder to which one we do and there's never any arguments.

You must be lucky and have all single slots, else how does it work?

Even with single slots if you get a lot of D2Ds with a few bulkier ones this can virtually fill the slots before you put a single letter in. It isn't good for morale and you start to feel like you are doing somebody else's work.
I think I have had one occasion where I pulled all the D2D out of the frame and several occasions where I have pulled the mail out but left the D2Ds in the frame. This happened a long time ago when the absorption did not physically form part of our walks and was on other frames/walks. There was a tendency for owners of walks that were going to be absorbed to throw all the D2D in the day before so they didn't have to do the work. It really ****** some of us off.

[clashcityrocker]

I find it is easier to deliver the things rather than fiddle about looking to see if there is mail or not.
And I have yet to meet anyone who is 100% accurate 100% of the time. I have lost count of the number of times I have found mail left in slots by people who "only take where they are going."
I like a clear frame. I like to see the frame is clear.

[Trail]

I used to take the lot and burn them or put them in the blue bin. F*ck walking down every c*unt's drive delivering s**t no-one wants.

[ArthurPewty]

I used to take the lot and burn them or put them in the blue bin. F*ck walking down every c*unt's drive delivering s**t no-one wants.

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[ted_e_bear]

Say it was just one or two d2ds and I had time to put them all in Monday then I would do, cover man only has to take them where he's going, look at it another way if my day off is say Friday then by then the cover man probably won't have to prep or deliver any so swings and roundabouts etc..

[Natagora]

It’s so simple. Throw in one column each day - or throw in the whole week’s worth on the same morning if you like - and just take where you’re delivering to each day. On Monday throw Saturday’s in as well.
Don’t ever feel guilty about leaving an empty column for the person covering your day off each week, because they’re only taking where they’re delivering to as well.
If it’s double slotted, and there’s only mail for one address, then write a number on the remaining leaflet.
By the end of Saturday’s round, virtually all of the junk has been delivered with a proper letter, and you haven’t wasted any time walking down countless paths all week just to deliver an item of unaddressed ‘mail’ that will almost certainly be thrown away, unread.
Astonished by how many people actually seem to struggle with stuff like this.