Kids At School

[nowt on the wireless]

Hi looking for info. A colleague had the school their kid attend phone them (during our meal break time before delivery)asking them to collect their kid asap. as they had been sick, so my colleague went to speak to manager about the situation asking to use A/L for the day so they could go to collect child. Manager refused his request and told colleague had to stay at work. Colleague then spoke to union rep who more or less agreed with manager! Even tho A/L is still being given this week at our place. Where does my colleague stand should manager accept request for A/L or unpaid leave

[number one]

Emergency family distress - they should have just gone home. No annual leave had to be taken and they would receive full pay

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[Woody Guthrie]

A sick child is not considered to be urgent family distress, that is for more serious emergencies, it is covered by Time Off for dependants and is a statutory right. As it is a right the business default position is that it should be unpaid. The reason for that is legal but I won't bore you with the details.

[rehabron]

A sick child is not considered to be urgent family distress, that is for more serious emergencies, it is covered by Time Off for dependants and is a statutory right. As it is a right the business default position is that it should be unpaid. The reason for that is legal but I won't bore you with the details.

Please bore me with the details

[Woody Guthrie]

Time off for dependants is a statutory right for all employees and it is unlawful for an employer to subject its employees to any detriment for taking it.

That means removing management discretion from the equation complely and the use of annual leave since some members will have more annual leave than others and some may have none left to take. The business could of course take the decision to pay all "time off for dependants" but since it's a statutory right they would never be able to refuse it and that would probably bankrupt the business within 6 months.

[nowt on the wireless]

Emergency family distress - they should have just gone home. No annual leave had to be taken and they would receive full pay

Thanks, colleague more upset at union rep for more or less agreeing word for word with manager

[nowt on the wireless]

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colleague is more upset by union rep for more or less agreeing with manager

[Woody Guthrie]

Emergency family distress - they should have just gone home. No annual leave had to be taken and they would receive full pay

Thanks, colleague more upset at union rep for more or less agreeing word for word with manager

The reason the rep agreed with management is because they are right, don't trust blind opinion on here, you'll only get yourself into trouble.

[number one]

Emergency family distress - they should have just gone home. No annual leave had to be taken and they would receive full pay

Thanks, colleague more upset at union rep for more or less agreeing word for word with manager

The reason the rep agreed with management is because they are right, don't trust blind opinion on here, you'll only get yourself into trouble.

I’ve had to go home many times over the years when one of my children is ill and have been paid every single time.

[Woody Guthrie]

I’ve had to go home many times over the years when one of my children is ill and have been paid every single time.

Good for you but your anecdotal experience doesn't help the OP. I've stated the business position which is what this manager ( and rep) are following, what various other managers do and whether they put iit through as something else is of little consequence.

[number one]

I’ve had to go home many times over the years when one of my children is ill and have been paid every single time.

Good for you but your anecdotal experience doesn't help the OP. I've stated the business position which is what this manager ( and rep) are following, what various other managers do and whether they put iit through as something else is of little consequence.

Well the manager or union rep wasn’t right was he? They should have gone home either unpaid or taken as annual leave

[DrSatan]

Hi looking for info. A colleague had the school their kid attend phone them (during our meal break time before delivery)asking them to collect their kid asap. as they had been sick, so my colleague went to speak to manager about the situation asking to use A/L for the day so they could go to collect child. Manager refused his request and told colleague had to stay at work. Colleague then spoke to union rep who more or less agreed with manager! Even tho A/L is still being given this week at our place. Where does my colleague stand should manager accept request for A/L or unpaid leave

How can a manager tell their staff member they have to refuse to collect their child when sick from school?

They have to allow you to get them but they don't have to pay you for the time lost.

[Woody Guthrie]

If they asked for time off for dependants it should not have been refused, as I've pointed out it's a statutory right and management do not have the authority to refuse it. If they asked for annual leave or paid time off then that would be refused, I wasn't there so I have no idea how the conversation went but even though I've met many deficient managers in my time I've yet to meet one stupid enough to stop someone going to pick up a sick child from school. I also don't know any members who wouldn't have just put their jacket on and left if their child was ill with no-one else to care for them....so perhaps there are parts of the story missing.

[DrSatan]

What did the person actually do in the end?