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bensonhedge
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Can anybody tell me, has any runners had their duties increased based on their pda actuals and as a consequence has any work to timers had their monster deliveries reduced? In my office its business as usual, all the runners ghosting, and work to timers moaning
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bensonhedge wrote:Can anybody tell me, has any runners had their duties increased based on their pda actuals and as a consequence has any work to timers had their monster deliveries reduced? In my office its business as usual, all the runners ghosting, and work to timers moaning
Same in my office, they did look at actuals but shyed away from taking stuff off people who go over to give to early finishers because they said it would just cause arguements that would be never ending about speed of work etc.
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Yes it's happening right now in my office, walks are being changed, the runners get more because at the end of the day it's not about how fast you work it's about how much time you have.
CUT OFF!!!
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They might not be looking at the present time , but I've heard area mangers are starting to put the pressure on doms to save some hour's.
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Phantom wrote:Yes it's happening right now in my office, walks are being changed, the runners get more because at the end of the day it's not about how fast you work it's about how much time you have.
But don’t you think it should also be down to how much work you actually do in your time. As soon as you start punishing people who are good at their job thats when you cause real problems. If we all worked at the rate of the slowest person what would that achieve. We can all drag our feet if needed
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One duty of about 60 in our office has so far been chopped following use of PDA Actuals to prove or disprove their claims. Not sure where the extra work went though. They are goinf through 'problem' duties one by one, too much on to do it any quicker. It might take 12 months!

Rushing is not being good at your job. There is too much emphasis on quantity not quality, management encourage this.
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number one wrote:
Phantom wrote:Yes it's happening right now in my office, walks are being changed, the runners get more because at the end of the day it's not about how fast you work it's about how much time you have.
But don’t you think it should also be down to how much work you actually do in your time. As soon as you start punishing people who are good at their job thats when you cause real problems. If we all worked at the rate of the slowest person what would that achieve. We can all drag our feet if needed
Agree , should be judged on workload and not finishing times , we can all drag our feet if need be.
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Phantom wrote:Yes it's happening right now in my office, walks are being changed, the runners get more because at the end of the day it's not about how fast you work it's about how much time you have.
When they do all the changes to the rounds, the runners might get to pick onto now smaller duties and leave someone else to pick their old bigger duty. What happens then? Another revision/adjustment to duties?

We've been told a revision based on actuals is coming our way so the runners are saying they'll smash their rounds then in a repick go onto a duty that's had stuff took off it and let someone else prove how easy their old duties where especially with anything else added onto them
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number one wrote:
Phantom wrote:Yes it's happening right now in my office, walks are being changed, the runners get more because at the end of the day it's not about how fast you work it's about how much time you have.
But don’t you think it should also be down to how much work you actually do in your time. As soon as you start punishing people who are good at their job thats when you cause real problems. If we all worked at the rate of the slowest person what would that achieve. We can all drag our feet if needed

9/10 says those who finish early are running around and not taking breaks, not using delivery equipment.

It's all about TIME not the work you do!

PDA are here to remove walks from the office and loads of postmen and women will fall for Royal Mail's tactic by rushing around.
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Post by miles_peters »

why penalise people for being fast efficient and organised? no one works at the same speed.
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Phantom wrote:
number one wrote:
Phantom wrote:Yes it's happening right now in my office, walks are being changed, the runners get more because at the end of the day it's not about how fast you work it's about how much time you have.
But don’t you think it should also be down to how much work you actually do in your time. As soon as you start punishing people who are good at their job thats when you cause real problems. If we all worked at the rate of the slowest person what would that achieve. We can all drag our feet if needed

9/10 says those who finish early are running around and not taking breaks, not using delivery equipment.

It's all about TIME not the work you do!

PDA are here to remove walks from the office and loads of postmen and women will fall for Royal Mail's tactic by rushing around.
All about time and not the work you do?? So I could come into work make a brew, have a chit chat, go out for a smoke, go to the loo, go for another smoke, have another brew. Then take forever preparing my walk amd just deliver a row at snails pace to take me up to my time and go home?

I somehow don’t think they’ll like that very much.

In my office the slowest postie (and lets not kid ourselves that “they are probably doing it correctly” because they’re not. Is the highest paid employee in my office. He books 3:30hrs extended most days and does a about 10 parcels on overtime which he books 2:30hrs for.
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

miles_peters wrote:why penalise people for being fast efficient and organised? no one works at the same speed.
I wouldn't take anything off any duty I would just give the larger duties to the faster, efficient and organised, if it's just a case of people working at different rates it shouldn't be a problem should it?

I can hear the squealing already....
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
miles_peters wrote:why penalise people for being fast efficient and organised? no one works at the same speed.
I wouldn't take anything off any duty I would just give the larger duties to the faster, efficient and organised, if it's just a case of people working at different rates it shouldn't be a problem should it?

I can hear the squealing already....
So what happens when the faster posties smash their new bigger round and the slower posties book extended on the rounds that were “smaller”

All change again?
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If you do your job properly then it is virtually impossible to be a "fast" postie.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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clashcityrocker wrote:If you do your job properly then it is virtually impossible to be a "fast" postie.
Here we go again with the boring “job properly” statement