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Part timers hours latest and the agreement
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bigal383
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Part timers hours latest and the agreement
In the agreements it clearly states in each one hours worked to be reviewed evrry 6 months even in the new one. I heardd a few lads in the north west are taking this futhur royal mail have gone back on their word the lads hours have been brought forward by h.r and royal mail are not taking these agreements seriously and trying to undermine the union and the reps. Spread the word to your offices this could be one to watch out for if it goes to a triburnal . being part time myself i hope they win the triburnal as iam sick of royal mail always doing the dirty on our work force . making agreements and not living up to them!
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superdazzy
- Posts: 98
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SHOCK HORROR
RM not sticking to an agreement, lets face it they only stick to the ones they want to. For example the cutting off policy is a complete joke our old Rep is suspended at the moment for cutting off yet he stuck to the agreement
RM not sticking to an agreement, lets face it they only stick to the ones they want to. For example the cutting off policy is a complete joke our old Rep is suspended at the moment for cutting off yet he stuck to the agreement
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bigal383
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Get on the streets for him then
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Creditshampoo
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Grievance if and take it all the way then
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superdazzy
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Can you file a grievance if he is still suspended, 11 weeks now
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hero22
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Our rep had a meeting with area manager this week with regards to upgrades in contracts. The process is a con. Suddenly efficiency is so poor in our office that many our missing out on any increase in hours even though most do 39 hours plus overtime. Been no mention of low efficiency levels till now.
At one stage all upgrades had been refused and area manager wudnt even meet our rep. However I also was told that our rep was undermined by union reps further up the chain who advised him they wud accept the deal on the table if he didn't.Lost all faith in the union to be honest. How that's even possible I don't know. I don't think we have heard the end of this but for the guys who are taking it further I seriously hope they show the Royal Mail to be what they are, a crowd of thieving lying pr**s.
There a large number of part timers in our office but trying to get them to stand together on this issue is impossible, i really dont know what people are even in the union for if they dont fight for anything. Good luck to all the others out there anyway.
At one stage all upgrades had been refused and area manager wudnt even meet our rep. However I also was told that our rep was undermined by union reps further up the chain who advised him they wud accept the deal on the table if he didn't.Lost all faith in the union to be honest. How that's even possible I don't know. I don't think we have heard the end of this but for the guys who are taking it further I seriously hope they show the Royal Mail to be what they are, a crowd of thieving lying pr**s.
There a large number of part timers in our office but trying to get them to stand together on this issue is impossible, i really dont know what people are even in the union for if they dont fight for anything. Good luck to all the others out there anyway.
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General Mannerheim
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 14 Dec 2007, 13:10
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- Location: Stalag 17
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Yes you can even file a grievance to an employer if they sack you....that doesn't mean that they will answer it though.superdazzy wrote:Can you file a grievance if he is still suspended, 11 weeks now
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
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bigal383
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These lads just waiting for triburnal date now think wr all go down and support them! Spread the word
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Navalron
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- Location: Glasgow
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WELL SAID. THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE.bigal383 wrote:Get on the streets for him then
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rogersh
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LTB 132/16 Resourcing, Recruitment and Professional Manpower Planning/Legally Binding Agreement
by TrueBlueTerrier » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:34 pm
To: Branches with POSTAL Members
Dear Colleagues,
Resourcing, Recruitment and Professional Manpower Planning/Legally Binding Agreement
You will recall that in November 2015 the situation locally in respect of the business not adhering (in our opinion) to our National Agreements regarding the above had become so dire that it was necessary for a national intervention and the negotiation of a Joint Statement to guide and refocus the field (LTB 715/15 refers).
Unfortunately, it is with great frustration that once again we are required to intervene due to management’s failure to apply our agreements at local level. This has now reached epidemic proportions with the consequences of managers performing OPG work, excessive use of agency and casuals, excessive levels of overtime, part timers being asked to regularly perform hours above their conditioned hours (despite not being offered increased contracts in line with our agreement), an apparent national block on any full time recruitment, the cessation of temporary contracts, regardless of need, and offers of un-agreed voluntary redundancies etc threatening industrial stability.
Against that backdrop the Postal Executive has for the first time taken the very serious step of registering a national Point of Principle, in line with Schedule 3 Disputes Resolution Procedures of the legally binding agreement, and in particular Section 3 Achieving National Agreement 3.1 Point of Principle.
This is new territory for us and it is with great regret that we’ve had to take this action but it is naive to believe that industrial stability will be maintained if agreements reached nationally are not applied in the workplace locally.
Clearly this Point of Principle is not about renegotiating our National Agreements but rather the business’ failure to deploy those National Agreements and enforce them at local level. Our on-going dialogue will be about how we jointly correct that situation and restore confidence in our procedures.
Notwithstanding the position being taken nationally, Local, Area and Divisional Representatives should continue to challenge any activity which is considered
inconsistent with our National Agreements via the IR Framework.
Attached to this LTB is a letter sent to Mike Newby on this issue which is self-explanatory.
Branches should ensure that this LTB is given the widest possible circulation and that it is brought to the attention of local Representatives.
Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGSP Department.
Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
LTB 553/18 : CWU/RMG Joint Statement : Shorter Working Week
by POSTMAN » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:29 pm
28th September 2018
Dear Colleagues,
CWU/RMG Joint Statement – Shorter Working Week
Final Paragraph
“Although implementation of the first hour reduction is clearly a positive message, we also recognise that there are still many reported problems out in the field around resourcing and culture and we are determined to work just as hard to resolve these issues and fully deploy the spirit and intent of our Agreements.”
Any further enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.
Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
September 2018
Sue Whalley and Terry Pullinger Joint Statement – Shorter Working Week
Progress Update
>We have carried out audits in all offices to try and expose the local challenges of resourcing and Quality of Service failure, and local action plans should be agreed.<
Frontline managers briefing pack:
5. PART-TIME COLLEAGUES
We will honour our agreements regarding part-time colleagues:
• Part-time colleagues’ contracted hours will be jointly reviewed every March and September. Where appropriate, increased contracted hours will be offered to reflect the hours actually worked and planned.
• Temporary increases in contracted hours to be offered to part-time colleagues to manage seasonal variations or peaks in demand.
End.
Note the LTB 132/16 is from 2016 However
Deja vu seems apparent despite all the assurances given in the four pillars agreement there still appears be a reluctance to implement the increase in hours for part-timers.
Is their an implied link between resourcing and culture?
by TrueBlueTerrier » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:34 pm
To: Branches with POSTAL Members
Dear Colleagues,
Resourcing, Recruitment and Professional Manpower Planning/Legally Binding Agreement
You will recall that in November 2015 the situation locally in respect of the business not adhering (in our opinion) to our National Agreements regarding the above had become so dire that it was necessary for a national intervention and the negotiation of a Joint Statement to guide and refocus the field (LTB 715/15 refers).
Unfortunately, it is with great frustration that once again we are required to intervene due to management’s failure to apply our agreements at local level. This has now reached epidemic proportions with the consequences of managers performing OPG work, excessive use of agency and casuals, excessive levels of overtime, part timers being asked to regularly perform hours above their conditioned hours (despite not being offered increased contracts in line with our agreement), an apparent national block on any full time recruitment, the cessation of temporary contracts, regardless of need, and offers of un-agreed voluntary redundancies etc threatening industrial stability.
Against that backdrop the Postal Executive has for the first time taken the very serious step of registering a national Point of Principle, in line with Schedule 3 Disputes Resolution Procedures of the legally binding agreement, and in particular Section 3 Achieving National Agreement 3.1 Point of Principle.
This is new territory for us and it is with great regret that we’ve had to take this action but it is naive to believe that industrial stability will be maintained if agreements reached nationally are not applied in the workplace locally.
Clearly this Point of Principle is not about renegotiating our National Agreements but rather the business’ failure to deploy those National Agreements and enforce them at local level. Our on-going dialogue will be about how we jointly correct that situation and restore confidence in our procedures.
Notwithstanding the position being taken nationally, Local, Area and Divisional Representatives should continue to challenge any activity which is considered
inconsistent with our National Agreements via the IR Framework.
Attached to this LTB is a letter sent to Mike Newby on this issue which is self-explanatory.
Branches should ensure that this LTB is given the widest possible circulation and that it is brought to the attention of local Representatives.
Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGSP Department.
Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
LTB 553/18 : CWU/RMG Joint Statement : Shorter Working Week
by POSTMAN » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:29 pm
28th September 2018
Dear Colleagues,
CWU/RMG Joint Statement – Shorter Working Week
Final Paragraph
“Although implementation of the first hour reduction is clearly a positive message, we also recognise that there are still many reported problems out in the field around resourcing and culture and we are determined to work just as hard to resolve these issues and fully deploy the spirit and intent of our Agreements.”
Any further enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.
Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
September 2018
Sue Whalley and Terry Pullinger Joint Statement – Shorter Working Week
Progress Update
>We have carried out audits in all offices to try and expose the local challenges of resourcing and Quality of Service failure, and local action plans should be agreed.<
Frontline managers briefing pack:
5. PART-TIME COLLEAGUES
We will honour our agreements regarding part-time colleagues:
• Part-time colleagues’ contracted hours will be jointly reviewed every March and September. Where appropriate, increased contracted hours will be offered to reflect the hours actually worked and planned.
• Temporary increases in contracted hours to be offered to part-time colleagues to manage seasonal variations or peaks in demand.
End.
Note the LTB 132/16 is from 2016 However
Deja vu seems apparent despite all the assurances given in the four pillars agreement there still appears be a reluctance to implement the increase in hours for part-timers.
Is their an implied link between resourcing and culture?