Walk allocation.

Dayman! · Post by **Dayman!** » 28 Aug 2018, 22:18

Somebody is due to move onto a different walk, leaving theirs open. Can it be 'set aside' for a new start coming in or should it be open to anyone?

Also know that if I was to ask about it the response would be along the lines of 'you know too many other jobs' so curious to know where I stand with that from anyone in the know.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 28 Aug 2018, 22:26

Dayman! wrote:Somebody is due to move onto a different walk, leaving theirs open. Can it be 'set aside' for a new start coming in or should it be open to anyone?

Also know that if I was to ask about it the response would be along the lines of 'you know too many other jobs' so curious to know where I stand with that from anyone in the know.

In our DO a notice would be put on the notice board with a cut off date. Anyone in the office who wanted to sign for that walk would write their name down. After the cut off date had ended the postie on the notice with the highest seniority would sign for the walk.

joewyan · Post by **joewyan** » 29 Aug 2018, 07:16

Dayman! wrote:Somebody is due to move onto a different walk, leaving theirs open. Can it be 'set aside' for a new start coming in or should it be open to anyone?

Also know that if I was to ask about it the response would be along the lines of 'you know too many other jobs' so curious to know where I stand with that from anyone in the know.

If it is a suitable job then it could be left as a new starter training walk, in my old office there was a part time HCT walk that was used like that

crazyshrew · Post by **crazyshrew** » 29 Aug 2018, 15:21

Someone should be able to sign for it, at the very least to be sure of the rotational day off (or whatever structure is applicable to the office)
It could however be signed for on the understanding that it is going to be used as a training walk for the time being.

We have a very nasty (heavy) lapsing duty which should soon be put up for someone to sign for. At best the duty holder will only be doing it 2 or 3 days a week BUT speaking as a reserve who is constantly shafted, I'd happily sign for it so I know when my days off will be

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 29 Aug 2018, 15:25

We've got a training walk, previously literally the most senior person's in the office (medically retired) which is an absolute doddle. Didn't go down too well with a number of the old timers who had clearly had their eye on it!

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 29 Aug 2018, 17:40

It should be advertised and the most senior applicant should get it (regardless of how many other duties they can do). However, it could be argued that a training duty is needed, and the person who gets it can be taken off every time there's a new starter.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 29 Aug 2018, 18:05

I thought it went to a reserve for 6 months before being advertised to avoid a domino effect of people changing duties.
Only if 5% of the office duties were vacant would they all be put up for re-signing.

matthew68 · Post by **matthew68** » 30 Aug 2018, 21:26

clashcityrocker wrote:I thought it went to a reserve for 6 months before being advertised to avoid a domino effect of people changing duties.
Only if 5% of the office duties were vacant would they all be put up for re-signing.

We’ve never had a Re sign in our office because Dom doesn’t want one! I have asked countless times because newbies and
People with less service than me have own walk yet I keep changing I’ve asked union and they just say it’s up to Dom so,seniority doesn’t exist anymore

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 30 Aug 2018, 22:50

matthew68 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:I thought it went to a reserve for 6 months before being advertised to avoid a domino effect of people changing duties.
Only if 5% of the office duties were vacant would they all be put up for re-signing.
We’ve never had a Re sign in our office because Dom doesn’t want one! I have asked countless times because newbies and
People with less service than me have own walk yet I keep changing I’ve asked union and they just say it’s up to Dom so,seniority doesn’t exist anymore

DO usually have a full resign after walks have been dramatically changed. I think there is a percentage change figure but I can't remember it. DOMs and RM don't like resigns because it causes upset and distress and arguments among the workforce when Postie's get moved to other walks and they don't want to move. Resigns are more a union thing so I would suggest having a conversation with your union rep. There are rules about when a resign should happen that are agreed between the RM & the CWU. It isn't really up to the DOM so if something has changed in your DO that means a resign has to take place your DOM cannot stop it happening indefinitely.

PS The seniority system does still exist and is used to determine the order of choosing walks in resigns. It is also still used in some DO to work out AL allocation.