Way forward days off at short notice etc

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 22 Jul 2018, 12:28

When does this come into effect
Can't even get a day off 9 months in advance

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 22 Jul 2018, 12:30

Another agreement that's never going to happen ....

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 22 Jul 2018, 14:00

Won’t happen.

MinTee · Post by **MinTee** » 22 Jul 2018, 15:57

Best bet Is to have a word with your union rep. Then have a word with the one who does your rota, praying to god it’s not a manager. You pretty much have to beg, make it sound like your reason for needing a day of is absolutely essential and of utmost urgency. Promise to return the favour at any given opportunity, and then prepare to pucker up.
After all that, I can safely say with confidence...you may or may not get a day off.

A guy in my DO who asked for a Saturday off a few years ago because it was the day of his wedding. The following week he had as holiday for his honeymoon. Needless to say he was denied the day off, had to go out in his own van and sprint around to finish with an hour and half spare to get to his wedding.
It’s alright though, they took absorption off him.

chickenwittle · Post by **chickenwittle** » 22 Jul 2018, 16:08

It’s not happening in my office either , so only option is to go sick which is what Royal Mail were trying to avoid .

Post by **Brandy** » 22 Jul 2018, 16:18

MinTee wrote:Best bet Is to have a word with your union rep. Then have a word with the one who does your rota, praying to god it’s not a manager. You pretty much have to beg, make it sound like your reason for needing a day of is absolutely essential and of utmost urgency. Promise to return the favour at any given opportunity, and then prepare to pucker up.
After all that, I can safely say with confidence...you may or may not get a day off.

A guy in my DO who asked for a Saturday off a few years ago because it was the day of his wedding. The following week he had as holiday for his honeymoon. Needless to say he was denied the day off, had to go out in his own van and sprint around to finish with an hour and half spare to get to his wedding.
It’s alright though, they took absorption off him.

He couldnt have been one of the managers favourites then!

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 22 Jul 2018, 17:06

The other classic try swap day of with other guy ????
So the management has less work to do.
Does it really take managers from 9.30 to 2.45 every day to do there daily workload mmmmmm.
Wee get more work more hassle more s**t any can't get days off owed to us .
Yip agree with most above pointless asking for days off now most go sick .....

Post by **POSTMAN** » 22 Jul 2018, 17:11

There is no reason in the world for you not to get a day off (if the slot/day is available) 9 fricken months in advance, even a few weeks in advance.
Stating the obvious you are being done over and you need branch involvement if this is a regular thing.

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 22 Jul 2018, 17:34

Regular all the time in our office .
Becomes a fight and causes bad feeling ...
Area rep etc should never get that far but
But does all the time
Gaffer still does it but

terry2972 · Post by **terry2972** » 22 Jul 2018, 20:55

Yamr1 wrote:The other classic try swap day of with other guy ????
So the management has less work to do.
Does it really take managers from 9.30 to 2.45 every day to do there daily workload mmmmmm.
Wee get more work more hassle more s**t any can't get days off owed to us .
Yip agree with most above pointless asking for days off now most go sick .....

I have to disagree with you I have just started as a trainee manager and on a Tuesday it was 14.30 by the time I had finished it might not be the job for me lol

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 23 Jul 2018, 11:29

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 24 Jul 2018, 18:31

Why can't we have an annual leave system like the NHS has?

They can log in from home, see exactly how many leave slots are available at their grade for any given day over the annual leave year and then book it online, given subject to manager conformation by the end of the next week their manager is at work.

For popular days, such as around Xmas, managers will attempt to appease as many staff as possible i.e. one staff member cannot hog the whole Xmas week off if others want some days too and there are limited slots.

It's so simple, fair and paperless.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 24 Jul 2018, 18:38

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Why can't we have an annual leave system like the NHS has?

They can log in from home, see exactly how many leave slots are available at their grade for any given day over the annual leave year and then book it online, given subject to manager conformation by the end of the next week their manager is at work.

For popular days, such as around Xmas, managers will attempt to appease as many staff as possible i.e. one staff member cannot hog the whole Xmas week off if others want some days too and there are limited slots.

It's so simple, fair and paperless.

Because we have managers who get bonuses for running the office with as little headcount as possible to get a bonus that contributes to their pensions while we cannot get holidays owed us it's not rocket science just self serving bastards at work!

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 24 Jul 2018, 19:24

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Why can't we have an annual leave system like the NHS has?

They can log in from home, see exactly how many leave slots are available at their grade for any given day over the annual leave year and then book it online, given subject to manager conformation by the end of the next week their manager is at work.

For popular days, such as around Xmas, managers will attempt to appease as many staff as possible i.e. one staff member cannot hog the whole Xmas week off if others want some days too and there are limited slots.

It's so simple, fair and paperless.

Thought I heard once that PSP is capable of doing that