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Can they stop pay if off sick?

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thebeast
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Joined: 02 Nov 2007, 19:36

Can they stop pay if off sick?

Post by thebeast »

Hi,

I have been off sick for a few weeks now and got an invite to see the big boss in the main office. This is to see if he can be of any help to me as well as offer any advice. I refused this as i have a doctors note and i think that should be enough.

Anyway the lady on the phone said if i dont go then under some new rule they can stop my pay?

Anyone heard of this ;liar
madelin4
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Joined: 04 Jun 2007, 16:56

Re: Can they stop pay if off sick?

Post by madelin4 »

thebeast wrote:Hi,

I have been off sick for a few weeks now and got an invite to see the big boss in the main office. This is to see if he can be of any help to me as well as offer any advice. I refused this as i have a doctors note and i think that should be enough.

Anyway the lady on the phone said if i dont go then under some new rule they can stop my pay?

Anyone heard of this ;liar
They could be right, you have to attend the meetings and any doctor meeting with the employer . If a time dont suit you they will im sure arrange a better time for you..
oxboy
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Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 11:41

Post by oxboy »

You must be allowed a set time off though im sure part time etc have different working agreements.
One thing though im sure you dont want to but if your dum wants to see you make him come to your house if thats ok with you.
And ask for a rep to be present.
Though I really cant see as long as you have a doctors not what he/she can do mate I mean they have no medical qualifications so how can they call it,
total farce but good luck with you mate though maybe call the citizens advice.
curly1975
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Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 21:51

Post by curly1975 »

If you have a valid sick note from the doctors then they should not be pestering you at home and asking you to attend interviews while that sick note is still valid.

I am currently on the sick and have no intention of attending any EHS appointments. If anyone can tell me what an EHS nurse can tell me that a GP and Senior Consultant with over 30 years medical experience in the NHS cant i would be very very interested!!
AndyK
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Joined: 08 Aug 2007, 18:55

Post by AndyK »

If anyone can tell me what an EHS nurse can tell me that a GP and Senior Consultant with over 30 years medical experience in the NHS cant i would be very very interested!!
Even though it may seem like rubbish the business can use the advice of an EHS nurse to suggest suitable work for someone even with a sick note off a qualified GP, however once you are back at work any reoccurrence of your problem(s) would be your manager responsibility (failing to attend a EHS meeting could lead to RM stopping pay)
Broxi51
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Location: Scotland

Post by Broxi51 »

I have heard that they can stop pay if you refuse to attend meetings.
Obviously in some cases this will not be practicable but if you can attend then you should go.
You should also attend an appointment with the EHS
as this shows to RM that you are trying to help yourself get better.
If you reach a stage 3 further down the line and you have refused the help of
seeing an EHS nurse then it may go against you.
I would advise that you do what they ask within reason so that it is showing that you are trying to get better.
Hope that is of some help :Very Happy
borderscot
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Joined: 05 Oct 2007, 12:35

Post by borderscot »

Ask RM to send the nurse to your home at a time that suits you
curly1975
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Post by curly1975 »

If i have a very personal and private problem, maybe i don't want EHS nurse quizzing me about it??

Why is the word of a qualified GP/Consultant not good enough for RM????

If you have a sick note it means you cant work so why would you need to be visiting EHS to find suitable work for you??
norbet colon
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Location: elsewhere

our new approach to absence

Post by norbet colon »

AndyK wrote:
If anyone can tell me what an EHS nurse can tell me that a GP and Senior Consultant with over 30 years medical experience in the NHS cant i would be very very interested!!
Even though it may seem like rubbish the business can use the advice of an EHS nurse to suggest suitable work for someone even with a sick note off a qualified GP, however once you are back at work any reoccurrence of your problem(s) would be your manager responsibility (failing to attend a EHS meeting could lead to RM stopping pay)
First and Foremost, Royal Fail work on the assumption that you have a "good doctor " and you're guilty of malingering unless it can be proved otherwise .

To make this "look straight " they use so called "Occupational Physicians " that are "supposed " to know your job and what you can't or can do ,better than NHS Employed Doctors or Consultants .

To quote one ambitious idiot in a Central Lancs Zoo "ATOS Origin will overule your Doctor/Consultant & we'll have some work out of you "

You have to give Permission for Medical Records to go over to ATOS and attend appointments otherwise Royal Fail will have you for unauthorised absence , stop your pay and take you down Cof C .

I've seen one Manager have someone for missing a ATOS appointment , then there was the "fact finding interviews " , on one ;a line manager when walking away ( RM don't class this as Harassment or Abuse as apparently you can't prove it was directed at you ! WTF ? } call a member a "F*****g P**i " . The member put his hand on his wrist and ask him "What did you call me ?" .

The manager shouted out to a acting manager "J**n did you see this ?" , the member was suspended on a assault charge , it took weeks to get him back . That "Manager " laid it on too thick with lurid tales of a member beating him up that couldn't be proven .

Ironically that manager as a PHG in the loading bay should have been sacked for having someone by the throat but his Father { now retired } Black J**k begged the MCM to keep his job. A BNP member too allegedly but that's no surprise .
politics -showbiz for the ugly , powermad & inadequate
k979aaa
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Location: THE NORTH

Post by k979aaa »

borderscot wrote:Ask RM to send the nurse to your home at a time that suits you
YES she could be good looking and up for a bit of fun! :Very Happy
curly1975
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Joined: 21 Jun 2007, 21:51

Post by curly1975 »

Is RM the most immoral company going?!!

How dare they assume that they should have access to your PRIVATE MEDICAL RECORDS!!!
curly1975
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Post by curly1975 »

k979aaa wrote:
borderscot wrote:Ask RM to send the nurse to your home at a time that suits you
YES she could be good looking and up for a bit of fun! :Very Happy

:funneh :funneh :funneh :funneh :funneh :funneh :funneh :funneh

I did not look at it like that!!!

Nice one!!!!!
madelin4
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Post by madelin4 »

I dont think they have access to your medical records not without your permission..
curly1975
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Post by curly1975 »

I would hope not, but if you refuse to give that permission where do you stand??
k979aaa
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Post by k979aaa »

curly1975 wrote:I would hope not, but if you refuse to give that permission where do you stand??
This happend to me some time ago did not return ATOS form or attend invite from dom pay stoped phoned up and agreed to come back in pay restored. I would not like royalmail to have my medical record's it is bad enough them haveing my mobile number they just give it out to all and sundry where do you think your medical record's will go.! :shock: