Meal break

peterthetree · Post by **peterthetree** » 04 Jun 2018, 19:12

Please can someone tell me if you have accident in your van at work but have not taken any of your meal break how do you stand with your future at Royal mail .And this can be proved by the new pda catcher system.

Jpro747 · Post by **Jpro747** » 04 Jun 2018, 21:20

It depends how long into your shift you were when the accident happened. You must have taken at least 20 minutes break within the first 6 hours. The PDA data can tell whether you stopped for a break, but I’m pretty certain they aren’t allowed to use it for disciplinary purposes yet.

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 04 Jun 2018, 21:39

Why would not having a meal break have anything to do with a accident ? Managers would have to enforce breaks if it was against any R/M rules or illegal.

Xr4 · Post by **Xr4** » 04 Jun 2018, 22:29

Who's to say you didn't have a break before leaving the office?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 05 Jun 2018, 13:40

cpsteve wrote:Why would not having a meal break have anything to do with a accident ?

It would be if fatigue was a cause of the accident.
As far as I am aware the Working Time Directive is law and as such the meal relief on a 6- hour day should not be at the start or end of the shift.
If RM was a professional organisation then the meal relief would be enforced but it isn't.

The maximum working hours was ignored for years until there was a serious accident. Now you can't work more than 70 hours/week. (Unless you are a gaffer's favourite and they allow you to roll hours over)
But as ever RM is reactive and not proactive.

lambe720 · Post by **lambe720** » 05 Jun 2018, 14:39

clashcityrocker wrote:
cpsteve wrote:Why would not having a meal break have anything to do with a accident ?
It would be if fatigue was a cause of the accident.
As far as I am aware the Working Time Directive is law and as such the meal relief on a 6- hour day should not be at the start or end of the shift.
If RM was a professional organisation then the meal relief would be enforced but it isn't.

The maximum working hours was ignored for years until there was a serious accident. Now you can't work more than 70 hours/week. (Unless you are a gaffer's favourite and they allow you to roll hours over)
But as ever RM is reactive and not proactive.

You do nothing but complain on here. Do you need a hug?

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 05 Jun 2018, 15:02

lambe720 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
cpsteve wrote:Why would not having a meal break have anything to do with a accident ?
It would be if fatigue was a cause of the accident.
As far as I am aware the Working Time Directive is law and as such the meal relief on a 6- hour day should not be at the start or end of the shift.
If RM was a professional organisation then the meal relief would be enforced but it isn't.

The maximum working hours was ignored for years until there was a serious accident. Now you can't work more than 70 hours/week. (Unless you are a gaffer's favourite and they allow you to roll hours over)
But as ever RM is reactive and not proactive.
You do nothing but complain on here. Do you need a hug?

How exactly is that complaining?
What percentage of my posts are "complaining"?
No.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 05 Jun 2018, 15:43

lambe720 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
cpsteve wrote:Why would not having a meal break have anything to do with a accident ?
It would be if fatigue was a cause of the accident.
As far as I am aware the Working Time Directive is law and as such the meal relief on a 6- hour day should not be at the start or end of the shift.
If RM was a professional organisation then the meal relief would be enforced but it isn't.

The maximum working hours was ignored for years until there was a serious accident. Now you can't work more than 70 hours/week. (Unless you are a gaffer's favourite and they allow you to roll hours over)
But as ever RM is reactive and not proactive.
You do nothing but complain on here. Do you need a hug?

Sorry but 4 posts in that's not appropriate.

Post by **Navalron** » 06 Jun 2018, 20:28

No but clashcityrocker has lots and lots of tenements with lots and lots of stairs. Lol.

omega · Post by **omega** » 08 Jun 2018, 00:41

clashcityrocker wrote:If RM was a professional organisation then the meal relief would be enforced but it isn't..

I doubt many "professional organisations" would be on your back for not taking a break. If you're supposed to take a 20 minute break and you choose not to then it's on you.

Post by **rogersh** » 08 Jun 2018, 17:10

omega wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:If RM was a professional organisation then the meal relief would be enforced but it isn't..
I doubt many "professional organisations" would be on your back for not taking a break. If you're supposed to take a 20 minute break and you choose not to then it's on you.

Then those "professional organisations" would be unprofessional in disregarding the health & safety of their own employees & others their employees come into contact with.