New PT contract

bobsworth · Post by **bobsworth** » 01 Jun 2018, 21:24

I've just received my contract and picking through it has thrown up a few queries which I'd appreciate some advice on.

The rate of pay is £389.63 pro-rata which kind of works out as £9.99/h but there is no mention of the £25 delivery supplement (I'm based in a DO). Has this become a discretionary thing after the pay deal for new starters?

It doesn't include the specific days/times in the contract, but based on the job spec I am contracted for 4 hrs per day, which looking through the numerous forum posts will not be sufficient. As it is a condition of employment to work overtime (which I am fine with), are the extra hours you do included in holiday pay and pensionable pay?

The notice period does not seem very equitable - in the first 6 months they can give you 1 week but you have to give 4. I've never seen that before - is it a recent development?

I assume there is no scope for "contract negotiations" so is it best to raise any issues with the recruitment team, Manager at the DO or union rep?

joewyan · Post by **joewyan** » 02 Jun 2018, 00:04

bobsworth wrote:I've just received my contract and picking through it has thrown up a few queries which I'd appreciate some advice on.

The rate of pay is £389.63 pro-rata which kind of works out as £9.99/h but there is no mention of the £25 delivery supplement (I'm based in a DO). Has this become a discretionary thing after the pay deal for new starters?

It doesn't include the specific days/times in the contract, but based on the job spec I am contracted for 4 hrs per day, which looking through the numerous forum posts will not be sufficient. As it is a condition of employment to work overtime (which I am fine with), are the extra hours you do included in holiday pay and pensionable pay?

The notice period does not seem very equitable - in the first 6 months they can give you 1 week but you have to give 4. I've never seen that before - is it a recent development?

I assume there is no scope for "contract negotiations" so is it best to raise any issues with the recruitment team, Manager at the DO or union rep?

It does sound quite normal for an RM contract. The rate of pay you are on sounds about right and it does go up after 6 months and 12 months usually. Then you are on the same as the rest of us. You will have a delivery supplement, based on your hours it will probably be less than £25 though as it is pro rata. Some areas also include an area supplement so you may be lucky. They won’t be mentioned in the contract.
The contract won’t include hours or days of work as they will vary per delivery office and days will vary weekly as you will be a reserve (covering sick/holidays etc)

Overtime will not be included in holiday pay as it is voluntary. The notice period seems quite usual, it is now 4 weeks for newer employees and quite standard for the employer only needing to give 1 week during probation, don’t worry though, unless you do something seriously wrong you will be kept on!
Don’t take too much to heart from here, offices are very different to each other so hopefully yours will be a good one!

Good luck!

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 02 Jun 2018, 08:07

Overtime is optional

danterossetti · Post by **danterossetti** » 02 Jun 2018, 09:28

" As it is a condition of employment to work overtime (which I am fine with)"

Are you sure your contract states this ?

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 02 Jun 2018, 10:24

danterossetti wrote:" As it is a condition of employment to work overtime (which I am fine with)"

Are you sure your contract states this ?

The contract can say what it likes you don’t have to work overtime

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 02 Jun 2018, 10:48

Creditshampoo wrote:
danterossetti wrote:" As it is a condition of employment to work overtime (which I am fine with)"

Are you sure your contract states this ?
The contract can say what it likes you don’t have to work overtime

Exactly. Contracts have to be clear and fair.

If it doesn't say how much overtime and when, then that section of the contract is a waste of time and can be ignored.

bobsworth · Post by **bobsworth** » 02 Jun 2018, 14:23

joewyan wrote:
It does sound quite normal for an RM contract. The rate of pay you are on sounds about right and it does go up after 6 months and 12 months usually. Then you are on the same as the rest of us. You will have a delivery supplement, based on your hours it will probably be less than £25 though as it is pro rata. Some areas also include an area supplement so you may be lucky. They won’t be mentioned in the contract.
The contract won’t include hours or days of work as they will vary per delivery office and days will vary weekly as you will be a reserve (covering sick/holidays etc)

Overtime will not be included in holiday pay as it is voluntary. The notice period seems quite usual, it is now 4 weeks for newer employees and quite standard for the employer only needing to give 1 week during probation, don’t worry though, unless you do something seriously wrong you will be kept on!
Don’t take too much to heart from here, offices are very different to each other so hopefully yours will be a good one!

Good luck!

Thanks for the feedback. As long as the delivery supplement is still current and O/T is paid I'll live with the rest, although O/T is not exactly voluntary. Not sure what the implications of being a "reserve" are and it hasn't been mentioned to me before but will find out soon enough... guess it will involve a lot of variety!

bobsworth · Post by **bobsworth** » 02 Jun 2018, 14:25

danterossetti wrote:" As it is a condition of employment to work overtime (which I am fine with)"

Are you sure your contract states this ?

Yes..... as the needs of the service demand!

joewyan · Post by **joewyan** » 02 Jun 2018, 17:36

bobsworth wrote:
joewyan wrote:
It does sound quite normal for an RM contract. The rate of pay you are on sounds about right and it does go up after 6 months and 12 months usually. Then you are on the same as the rest of us. You will have a delivery supplement, based on your hours it will probably be less than £25 though as it is pro rata. Some areas also include an area supplement so you may be lucky. They won’t be mentioned in the contract.
The contract won’t include hours or days of work as they will vary per delivery office and days will vary weekly as you will be a reserve (covering sick/holidays etc)

Overtime will not be included in holiday pay as it is voluntary. The notice period seems quite usual, it is now 4 weeks for newer employees and quite standard for the employer only needing to give 1 week during probation, don’t worry though, unless you do something seriously wrong you will be kept on!
Don’t take too much to heart from here, offices are very different to each other so hopefully yours will be a good one!

Good luck!
Thanks for the feedback. As long as the delivery supplement is still current and O/T is paid I'll live with the rest, although O/T is not exactly voluntary. Not sure what the implications of being a "reserve" are and it hasn't been mentioned to me before but will find out soon enough... guess it will involve a lot of variety!

Overtime is voluntary, whatever you may be told. If you want to work your duty hours then that’s your right. You can be told what time to start your shift dependant on business needs but once you have done your daily hours then that’s your right to finish work whether completed the round or not as long as you follow procedures.

nuns · Post by **nuns** » 04 Jun 2018, 07:30

if £25 delivery supplement is pro rata ... but you are doing d2d on p/t hours in morning then delivering too should you get full £25 delivery supplement

Janet Brum · Post by **Janet Brum** » 04 Jun 2018, 09:43

nuns wrote:if £25 delivery supplement is pro rata ... but you are doing d2d on p/t hours in morning then delivering too should you get full £25 delivery supplement

Is the delivery supplement paid for door to doors? I didn`t knew that, if so, I`m owed money for delivering them on par with a full timer...

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 04 Jun 2018, 10:15

Delivery Supplement has nothing to do with D2D.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 04 Jun 2018, 15:08

and if you do 39 hours you get paid the same as a FT.

When you get paid SSPR for your overtime that has an element of Del Sup in it.