new pay offer

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:25

i'm not that good at maths, so sorry if i've got it wrong,
my 1st calculation brings me to a FT getting around £20 p/w raise from last october, (not april?)
from october 2018 we will drop to 38hrs thus our basic pay dropping around £11 p/w
from october 2019 we then drop to 37hrs and with the further 2% raise just been added in april 2019 our basic pay will be just £6 p/w more than now, but working 2hrs less for it
does that sound about right?
looks like to maintain our current standard of living we'll have to do a few hours overtime, or am i missing something?

Jefferson Starfish · Post by **Jefferson Starfish** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:44

You're missing the fact that we won't be losing an hours pay when we drop down to 38 hours per week! Or when that goes down to 37 hours.

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:46

I'm pretty sure pay remains the same, the drop in hours won't effect the weekly amount paid. So the hourly will go up slightly. Isn't it about 12 quid currently? So divide whatever you full-timers get currently over 38, not 39. That'll be your hourly.

Post by **plymouth3** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:48

The offer could have been worded better, but you've got it all wrong.

Firstly when the weekly hours reduce our pay stays the same, so in effect it is a pay rise. They say 2 hours reduction is equivalent to an extra 5.33% pay increase. We get paid weekly and not hourly.

Secondly, we are ineffect being back paid to April 2017. This year is a 2.5% pay increase with next yeat being another 2.5% pay increase, therefore in total 5 %. Being paid 5% from 1st oct (half of year) is the same has being paid 2.5% from april 17.

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:51

Jefferson Starfish wrote:You're missing the fact that we won't be losing an hours pay when we drop down to 38 hours per week! Or when that goes down to 37 hours.

i made the point actually
what i'm on about is in october 2019 my basic pay will be only £6 more than today, factor in the cost of living increases into that and those 2 hours we work less won't be spent playing football with the kids or having a cheeky few pints, it'll probably mean having to work 2 hours more to help pay the rent/mortgage

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:55

I think I need the power to ban people

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 01 Feb 2018, 16:57

plymouth3 wrote:The offer could have been worded better, but you've got it all wrong.

Firstly when the weekly hours reduce our pay stays the same, so in effect it is a pay rise. They say 2 hours reduction is equivalent to an extra 5.33% pay increase. We get paid weekly and not hourly.
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that makes more sense , i did the calculation using hourly rates

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:00

Creditshampoo wrote:I think I need the power to ban people

i think i need the power to knock gobshites off their high horses for talking crap to someone asking a genuine question

gb93 · Post by **gb93** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:01

Creditshampoo wrote:I think I need the power to ban people

Post by **POSTMAN** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:02

Details from Dingo in the other pay thread here...
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Shaders · Post by **Shaders** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:05

It gives us a pay rise without costing them any extra,

gb93 · Post by **gb93** » 01 Feb 2018, 17:06

In April we will get a 5% pay rise which will be backdated to Oct 2018 so will get around £550 backdated pay.
In October 2018 we get an hour off working week but get this we don't lose any pay.
In April 2019 we get another 2% pay rise then again in October 2019 we get a hour off working week without losing any pay

gunho · Post by **gunho** » 01 Feb 2018, 18:33

We might be working less hours but an increase in real terms would have been better. Money makes the world go round. 3:30 finish, that kills the school run, not a good deal in my eyes

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 01 Feb 2018, 18:55

gunho wrote:We might be working less hours but an increase in real terms would have been better. Money makes the world go round. 3:30 finish, that kills the school run, not a good deal in my eyes

Well you could have a 4:30 finish or even 5:00 as RM were proposing for £250 take it or leave it lump sum one off. The thing that gets me is this change in culture and what we will have to do in the future?

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 01 Feb 2018, 19:06

world class male wrote:
Creditshampoo wrote:I think I need the power to ban people
i think i need the power to knock gobshites off their high horses for talking crap to someone asking a genuine question